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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/5/23 at 4:46 pm to CitizenK
Posted on 3/5/23 at 4:46 pm to CitizenK
WSJ:
What complete BS: "Wagner’s goal, Mr. Prigozhin has said, wasn’t so much to take Bakhmut but to grind down Ukraine’s military."
Right. The human wave attacks were the best use of personnel to degrade the Ukrainian military. Why is the WSJ taking Prigozhin's statement at face value?
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Ukraine is also suffering large casualties here that could sap its ability to mount a spring offensive with new weapons supplied by the U.S. and allies. President Volodymyr Zelensky has come under growing pressure to pull back from the eastern city, home to 70,000 people before the war, in what would be Kyiv’s first such significant retreat since last summer. Wagner, which began its assault on Bakhmut in July, keeps inching closer to the remaining two supply roads into the shrinking salient, as its men fight house to house on approaches to the city’s central neighborhoods.
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Wagner’s goal, Mr. Prigozhin has said, wasn’t so much to take Bakhmut but to grind down Ukraine’s military. To an extent, this plan worked: As Ukraine poured some of its best brigades in to defend the city in recent months, even a lopsided casualty ratio in the Ukrainian favor ultimately worked to Moscow’s advantage given Russia’s larger population—and the fact that Russia was trading ill-trained prisoners for the lives of Ukrainian troops.
Such losses in the Bakhmut area are threatening Kyiv’s ability to mount a strategic counteroffensive once the current mud season ends in the spring and unpaved roads become passable again.
What complete BS: "Wagner’s goal, Mr. Prigozhin has said, wasn’t so much to take Bakhmut but to grind down Ukraine’s military."
Right. The human wave attacks were the best use of personnel to degrade the Ukrainian military. Why is the WSJ taking Prigozhin's statement at face value?
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 4:48 pm to LSUPilot07
Claymores were first announced as part of the recent aid package from the US. I’m not quite sure how many were transferred though, hopefully tens of thousands. When perched in trees, with shrapnel patterns laid out they’d be devastating for unsuspecting Russian infantry.
One of the loudest bangs I’ve ever heard in my life was when we trained with live claymores. Those things are ear splitting when they go off.
One of the loudest bangs I’ve ever heard in my life was when we trained with live claymores. Those things are ear splitting when they go off.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 5:36 pm to Breauxsif
And we have an enormous amount of them. As far as getting bang for your buck goes, claymores are devastating to enemy infantry. We know Russian infantry aren’t exactly the brightest crayons in the box so just set one up and pull them in with a bottle of vodka, pack of cigarettes or a washer/dryer like a piece of cheese to a mousetrap.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:00 pm to LSUPilot07
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Videos reportedly from the last 48 hours which show Ukrainian Forces struggling to Withdraw from Bakhmut due to the state of the Dirt Roads to the West that they forced to use because Russian/Wagner Forces are currently in Control of all Paved Roads in and out of the City.
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Intelligence Officials are reporting that the Iranian Government has reportedly made a "Secret Deal" with Russia to guarantee the delivery of Enriched Uranium used for Nuclear Weapons Development if Negotiations completely collapse.
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:01 pm to StormyMcMan
Iran needs to stay
The frick out of this…
The frick out of this…
Posted on 3/5/23 at 6:15 pm to Breauxsif
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with shrapnel patterns laid out they’d be devastating for unsuspecting Russian infantry.
If the combat footage of Russian patrols I have seen is any indication of their lack of adequate dispersion while moving Claymore casualties would be exponentially higher than there should be. Admittedly this is one of the hardest things to maintain on night patrols in particular.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:12 pm to dukke v
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:14 pm to Obtuse1
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If the combat footage of Russian patrols I have seen is any indication of their lack of adequate dispersion while moving Claymore casualties would be exponentially higher than there should be. Admittedly this is one of the hardest things to maintain on night patrols in particular.
Inexperienced and untrained troops always bunch up. It’s one of the most unintuitive things you can do on the battlefield under fire. It takes constant drilling to the point where it almost feels uncomfortable to be close to your buddy.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:46 pm to StormyMcMan
To hell with the Toyota Hilux trucks and civilian vans. If you can’t get them out put a rag in the gas tank or a round through the engine block and move on. Get the important vehicles and munitions out. The rest can be replaced.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:52 pm to LSUPilot07
I do not know if this is true, it is from Ukraine so consider it via those lenses. If true, 930 Russian casualties in one day. Is that the highest of the war?
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1632383352303939585
https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1632383352303939585
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“Military power wins battles, but spiritual power wins wars.”
George C. Marshall
Total combat losses of the enemy from February 24, 2022 to March 5, 2023:
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:57 pm to Chromdome35
Another unconfirmed report...could this be those longer-range rockets mentioned recently in the thread?
I hope this signals Ukraine is beginning its preparation of the battlefield ahead of its offensive.
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1632527954201698304
I hope this signals Ukraine is beginning its preparation of the battlefield ahead of its offensive.
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1632527954201698304
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??Mayor: 'Hundreds' of Russian soldiers may have been killed in Ukrainian strike on occupied Melitopol.
Exiled Mayor of Melitopol Ivan Fedorov said two powerful explosions were heard in Melitopol, Zaporizhzhia Oblast, possibly killing hundreds of Russian soldiers.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 3/5/23 at 7:58 pm to StormyMcMan
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Videos reportedly from the last 48 hours which show Ukrainian Forces struggling to Withdraw from Bakhmut due to the state of the Dirt Roads to the West that they forced to use because Russian/Wagner Forces are currently in Control of all Paved Roads in and out of the City.
Only the videos aren't from Bakhmut itself, but from another area nearby. They do not show Ukrainian forces struggling to withdraw from Bakhmut.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:00 pm to Chromdome35
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If true, 930 Russian casualties over 9 days, isn't anywhere close to the casualty rates supposedly being inflicted according to various reports
Chrome, it's been a year and 9 days. The big numbers are for the whole conflict. The 930 Russian casualties is from the previous day.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:03 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Chrome, it's been a year and 9 days. The big numbers are for the whole conflict. The 930 Russian casualties is from the previous day.
Damn, you are right. Editing my post. Sorry.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:05 pm to Chromdome35
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I hope this signals Ukraine is beginning its preparation of the battlefield ahead of its offensive.
I think we’re 6-8 weeks away from a real offensive from the Ukrainians
Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:12 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
agreed, they have between now and whenever the ground dries up enough to support the weight of tanks to prepare the battlefield. In Kherson, Ukraine demonstrated the ability to prep the battlefield by denying the Russians the ability keep their troops supplied by taking out every logistics choke point weeks ahead of the offensive. Then they just waited for Russia to wither on the vine and withdraw, which they did.
I think Ukraine will use a similar pattern ahead of this offensive...if a similar pattern does emerge, then that is a sure sign of the pending offensive.
For the Russians to wilt due to lack of supply will take a while to occur so why not start sooner rather than later? The longer they are wilting, the better.
I think Ukraine will use a similar pattern ahead of this offensive...if a similar pattern does emerge, then that is a sure sign of the pending offensive.
For the Russians to wilt due to lack of supply will take a while to occur so why not start sooner rather than later? The longer they are wilting, the better.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:14 pm to Chromdome35
It was a bit easier in Kherson because the bulk of the Russian force was stuck on the wrong side of the river
Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:20 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Good point. It will definitely be harder to accomplish as supply has to be cut off in two directions instead of just one.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 8:48 pm to Chromdome35
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For the Russians to wilt due to lack of supply will take a while to occur so why not start sooner rather than later? The longer they are wilting, the better.
Unfortunately, I don't think Ukraine has enough ammo to really start now.
Posted on 3/5/23 at 9:25 pm to GOP_Tiger
I think they are in conservation mode until about 3 weeks before they plan to start their offensive. They have been notably quiet with HIMARS for a couple months now. They have had luck in that the main weapons they have really needed this winter have been small arms and mortars as the fighting has been up close and personal. I would expect to see HIMARS activity pick up in the next 3-4 weeks as the ground hardens for an offensive in the May 1st range. I expect them to milk this muddy season for all its worth to buy time for shipments to come across the border which is starting to pick up. I guess NATO finally realized time had run out and they couldn’t pussyfoot around anymore.
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