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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:19 pm to facher08
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:19 pm to facher08
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A telegram channel run by an anonymous author quoting another anonymous Kremlin source. No wonder the poli Board is eating this up. Sounds plausible on a surface level.
The Russians can't even perform basic logistics and maintenance on their own outdated Soviet gear, but they are going to have the capability to get all these US systems up and running?
would have to be 1 and done essentially
dunno even know how they would even get parts
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Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:21 pm to lsu777
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US troops scrambled to withdraw from Afghanistan in August 2021 as the Taliban surged across the war-torn nation in a matter of weeks. At the same time as seizing regions, militants plundered stocks of Western artillery. It is thought Taliban fighters may have stolen as many as half a million US weapons and up to 50,000 vehicles.
That’s complete horseshite and whatever “journalist” wrote should be punched in the mouth. The only reason US troops were “scrambling” and left behind a mountain of equipment and weapons is because of the idiots in Washington DC, not the “surging Taliban”. The Taliban wasn’t surging anywhere until we left.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:42 pm to Darth_Vader
Amen!
Has anyone seen a breakdown of what makes up the 50K vehicles? Are they mostly Humvees and trucks? Any tanks?
I know we supposedly left some aircraft, but again how many? My brief google search turned up articles that said most of the airframes left behind were not functional.
Has anyone seen a breakdown of what makes up the 50K vehicles? Are they mostly Humvees and trucks? Any tanks?
I know we supposedly left some aircraft, but again how many? My brief google search turned up articles that said most of the airframes left behind were not functional.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:45 pm to Obtuse1
There I was thinking you were just the "watch guy".
I could sleep in that bitch. It looks comfy as frick.
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Some of the best sleep I’ve ever got was in the drivers seat of an Abrams
I could sleep in that bitch. It looks comfy as frick.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:49 pm to AllDayEveryDay
Is the Abrams driver seat accessible thru the main crew compartment?
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:51 pm to Chromdome35
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Is the Abrams driver seat accessible thru the main crew compartment?
Only when the turret is traversed with the main gun over the back deck at about the 5:30 position. When it’s in this position the opening to the turret is lined up with the driver’s compartment.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:53 pm to Chromdome35
going off memory, it was less than 10 helicopters that were functional, again going off memory
sitting over there with the taliban for this long....i would imagine most have been stripped and sold for parts
i would put the chances of a single aircraft even being flyable at less than 5%.
i would put the chances of any of the mbt we left behind showing up in ukraine at less than 5% also.
I personally worry about this about as much as I worry about crossing Putin's "RED Line" which is absolutely zero
sitting over there with the taliban for this long....i would imagine most have been stripped and sold for parts
i would put the chances of a single aircraft even being flyable at less than 5%.
i would put the chances of any of the mbt we left behind showing up in ukraine at less than 5% also.
I personally worry about this about as much as I worry about crossing Putin's "RED Line" which is absolutely zero
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:58 pm to AllDayEveryDay
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I could sleep in that bitch. It looks comfy as frick.
It’s really is. The cushion closest to the back is in the laid down position. The only time it would be laid down in this manner is for the driver to go up into the turret. Usually that cushion is on the up position to support the driver’s shoulders and upper back. And there is, or at least there use to be, a headrest that flowed down from the roof of the diver’s compartment. Here is a diagram that shows the position the driver sits in…
The driver can drive with his hatch open by pulling a handle on the right side of his seat that raises it up so he can see out without having to use the driver’s bath periscopes.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:32 pm to facher08
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The Russians can't even perform basic logistics and maintenance on their own outdated Soviet gear, but they are going to have the capability to get all these US systems up and running?
Are the Russians incompetent or about to overrun all of Europe?
I can't keep up.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:36 pm to Tiger985
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Are the Russians incompetent or about to overrun all of Europe?
I can't keep up.
No one said this.
I really need to make a list of you guy's platitudes.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:38 pm to Tiger985
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Are the Russians incompetent or about to overrun all of Europe? I can't keep up.
The Russians are incompetent but there are a lot of them and they are aggressive AF. They can be beaten but somebody has to, you know, actually stand up to them first.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 3:46 pm to Tiger985
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Are the Russians incompetent or about to overrun all of Europe?
I can't keep up.
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Tiger985
so not even interested in having a real conversation??
just one liners huh??
PT is off the fricking rails today
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:11 pm to GOP_Tiger
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After Ukraine completes its march to the Sea in May, that puts almost all of Crimea in HIMARS range (certainly in GLSDB range), which imperils the Russian military bases there. Ukraine starts destroying a lot of Russian military capability in Crimea while also simultaneously pushing towards Mariupol with all this NATO equipment. The loss of their supply lines in Crimea means that Ukrainian forces can jump the Dnipro in Kherson and push Russia back into Crimea itself. All this happens in June, which is also when a new push in the northeast starts, which takes Starobilsk and also "turns the corner and liberates Severodonetsk and Lysychansk. At this point, in late summer, with his forces in retreat and lots of Russian dead, with the functional loss of his Crimean bases and the impending threat to the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk, with the first deliveries of F-16s, Abrams, and ATACMS beginning to wreak havoc, Putin says that he wants to negotiate.
I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say the events that unfold in Ukraine between now and August will shape global politics for a generation. What a successful Ukrainian offensive vs a successful Russian offensive and/or entrenchment means for how Europe, Russia, China, Central Asia, India, and the US engage over the next 10 years is wild.
And I don’t think it ends with a status quo whimper.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:27 pm to ned nederlander
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:32 pm to Jim Rockford
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The Russians are incompetent but there are a lot of them and they are aggressive AF. They can be beaten but somebody has to, you know, actually stand up to them first.
I think the point is that they've very clearly demonstrated that this notion that Russians are going to roll into Poland, Germany, or Finland is completely absurd even though the media and the MIC keeps saying its inevitable if we don't do x, y, or z.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:35 pm to Darth_Vader
From my youth, fricking in sand grit gets in everywhere and that was beach sand not wind blown desert sand. Fricking on topsoil not as bad. Ahh brings back such memories from decades ago. Even sand fricking is still good despite the grit. Reminds me of a college organic chem prof of mine who came into class on a Monday morning cussing the class because young people broke into camps to frick, namely his camp at what we called Dung Beach (cow shite all over from winter) west of Holly Beach, instead of doing it in the sand like when he was young.
Seems to me that maintenance issues in Iraq would be more an issue than Ukraine.
Seems to me that maintenance issues in Iraq would be more an issue than Ukraine.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:37 pm to upgrayedd
Its equally as likely as us putting US troops on the ground or having done anything that pushes us even remotely close to a nuclear exchange
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:42 pm to upgrayedd
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I think the point is that they've very clearly demonstrated that this notion that Russians are going to roll into Poland, Germany, or Finland is completely absurd even though the media and the MIC keeps saying its inevitable if we don't do x, y, or z.
They took Crimea without any problems. They pounced on Kiev and thought when it fell they would dictate terms.
When that blew up they were exposed. The West say their opportunity and helped the valiant Ukrainian fighters to thwart Russia and even push them back some.
We know now that Russia is a paper tiger, but we didn’t know that on day one.
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:47 pm to Tiger985
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Are the Russians incompetent or about to overrun all of Europe?
Russian corruption comes into play. Their military isn’t all what it was supposed to be.
The Russian troops aren’t motivated. There is no good reason for them to be there.
The Russian system is antiquated and their troops pay the price.
Russia has numbers and guns on their side, but putting all that into play in a coordinated effort had failed to materialize.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 1/25/23 at 4:53 pm to doubleb
Russian MoD tomorrow: “The Russian army successfully destroyed 65 Abrams tanks, 53 Leopards, 183 Bradley’s, and 16 Challengers”.
On a serious note, do you all think we will see an Abrams and T-14 Armata matchup or is that pretty unlikely?
On a serious note, do you all think we will see an Abrams and T-14 Armata matchup or is that pretty unlikely?
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 4:57 pm
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