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Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:03 pm to Darth_Vader
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that’s the case, then what’s going on in Belarus isn’t preparation of opening a new front, but rather training replacements for the 1st Guards Tank Army for eventual deployment to the current front on the south. My guess is the Russians expect a Ukrainian offensive soon and these forces training in Belarus will be expected to either take part in the defense, or perhaps they will be held back in hopes of launching a counteroffensive.
The most likely reason for them being there is to tie down Ukrainian forces along the border so they are unavailable to defen in the south or conduct an offensive elsewhere. It’s a very cheap way for the Russians to even the playing field.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:52 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Russians sending resources to tie up resources makes no sense.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Of course, nothing they’ve done has made sense, so maybe.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Of course, nothing they’ve done has made sense, so maybe.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:53 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I don’t remember who asked me a while back about the pilot situation in the Ukrainian Air Force. I spoke to one of the pilots who I met over there. My contact clarified his earlier claim about the Ukrainian Air Force having just enough pilots to fly their current fleet at present. Initially Ukraine was short pilots and aircraft. It recalled all former pilots who had left the country and were flying as commercial pilots. This les to Ukraine having more pilots than it had planes. Back in late April or May it started rotating pilots in the existing aircraft so that Ukraine could increase the number of pilots who had combat experience because they would need extra pilots with combat experience when they sent their best to learn how to fly western jets. The western jet deal has not materialized yet which led to the Ukrainian Air Force having a surplus of pilots. It released some of those pilots to go back to commercial service, but with the ability to recall them as needed. It doesn’t have a surplus of pilots in uniform at this moment but could within a week if needed.
My contact also told me that the deal to send the retired USMC F18s to the Ukrainian Air Force is dead because Boeing couldn’t guarantee enough spare parts. With Sweden being unwilling to part with any of its Gripens that leaves the F16 as the only option for Ukraine. Unfortunately the F16s landing gear is not designed to handle the rough conditions of Ukraine’s air fields. Ukraine is going to have to redo its air fields to support the F16s and that is going to take a while.
My contact also told me that the deal to send the retired USMC F18s to the Ukrainian Air Force is dead because Boeing couldn’t guarantee enough spare parts. With Sweden being unwilling to part with any of its Gripens that leaves the F16 as the only option for Ukraine. Unfortunately the F16s landing gear is not designed to handle the rough conditions of Ukraine’s air fields. Ukraine is going to have to redo its air fields to support the F16s and that is going to take a while.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 12:58 pm to WeeWee
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It released some of those pilots to go back to commercial service, but with the ability to recall them as needed. It doesn’t have a surplus of pilots in uniform at this moment but could within a week if needed.
Imagine flying borderline suicide missions in Ukraine then a week later flying civilian passengers into and out of safe western airports on a 777.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:00 pm to WeeWee
Can someone explain to me why some of the Qtards consider this a money laundering scheme? Where does that come from?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:30 pm to Napoleon
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Can someone explain to me why some of the Qtards consider this a money laundering scheme? Where does that come from?
From my understanding, as recently as a few years ago, Ukraine was a major hub for international money laundering. If you remember back to the Trump days, one of the big talking points was Hunter Biden making millions from his position on the board of a Ukrainian energy company despite having little to no qualifications for such a position. This of course implies that the money was being routed through Ukraine right back into the pockets of American politicians.
In relation to this war, I am sure some cash is being lost in the billions being sent over there, but I do not think the Ukrainian government can afford to let much slip through the cracks as they struggle to stay afloat.
Now, where the bullshite Poliboard claims of all of this being a fake to solicit cash from western nations comes from is beyond me. I cannot comprehend that shite.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:33 pm to Napoleon
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Can someone explain to me why some of the Qtards consider this a money laundering scheme? Where does that come from?
Because they read the same headlines over and over from the same dumb websites.
Most probably think we are shipping billions in cash and don't understand the weapons transfer deal.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:47 pm to notiger1997
I really think people think we are sending them bars of gold and not weapons.
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:52 pm to Napoleon
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I really think people think we are sending them bars of gold and not weapons.
People are stupid.
I am as conservative as it gets and I cannot figure out why other conservatives are so pissed that we are essentially paying Ukraine to destroy our enemy. Ukraine is the one losing soldiers, not us. I don't really care if the US dumps our ancient weapons into that war to be used against Russia. Better than them collecting dust in a warehouse somewhere.
Anyway, I don't want to derail this again into a political thread.
This post was edited on 12/27/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:55 pm to TigersSEC2010
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I am as conservative as it gets and I cannot figure out why other conservatives are so pissed that we are essentially paying Ukraine to destroy our enemy.
It really only comes down to one thing. Biden is pro Ukraine. That is all it takes to flip these folks out and cause them to lose their minds.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 1:59 pm to TigersSEC2010
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I am as conservative as it gets and I cannot figure out why other conservatives are so pissed that we are essentially paying Ukraine to destroy our enemy. Ukraine is the one losing soldiers, not us. I don't really care if the US dumps our ancient weapons into that war to be used against Russia. Better than them collecting dust in a warehouse somewhere.
It basically TDS in reverse by some.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:07 pm to TigersSEC2010
My bad I only asked because in a totally unrelated thread. Two replies to me where "imagine if we spent that money on X rather than laundering it in ukraine"
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:09 pm to TigersSEC2010
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People are stupid.
I am as conservative as it gets and I cannot figure out why other conservatives are so pissed that we are essentially paying Ukraine to destroy our enemy. Ukraine is the one losing soldiers, not us. I don't really care if the US dumps our ancient weapons into that war to be used against Russia. Better than them collecting dust in a warehouse somewhere.
Anyway, I don't want to derail this again into a political thread.
for some its because they dont agree with any form of foreign aide, some dont beleive in getting involved in any war if we are not directly attacked
these are reasonable positions to take
but for most its because they are not principled conservatives or are just dumb and if biden and any democrats support something....frankly they have to be against it.
biden could come out tomorrow and say he is for the wall, for cutting taxes, cutting spending and frankly 100% MAGA and many (especially a high % of PTers) would flip flop and be against it simply because Biden is for it.
they are dumb as frick.
and the whole money laundering thing is dumb.
A) we are not sending much cash/cant launder weapons
B) there are 3rd party inspectors all over this shite
if money laundering is going to happen, it will happen after things cool down and all of the billions in frozen russian assets will slowly disappear.
bottomline is like you said, the ROI so far has been outstanding. I consider myself a libertarian leaning conservative. and as much as I dislike foreign aide, its going to happen if i like it or not. If we can use the foreign aide and ~5% of the military budget to destroy more than 50% of our biggest historical geopolitical foes conventional military while simaltanously destroying their economy...all while not losing a single american serviceman.....well in what fricking world is that not a grand slam?
i mean i think ukraine has sucked as a country and has been corrupt as frick...but they are peanuts in the grand scheme compared to russia. Russia is the aggressor and frankly this war has done more to make Nato countries acutally spend the agreed to amount more than Trump ever could.
To ukraine
Posted on 12/27/22 at 2:28 pm to TigersSEC2010
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one of the big talking points was Hunter Biden making millions from his position on the board of a Ukrainian energy company despite having little to no qualifications for such a position
That's not money laundering though. That's trying to buy influence. Unethical yes, but not exactly illegal.
In order for it to be money laundering it would have to be money received illegally and trying to get it into the banking system. That's why I get very confused in the money laundering claim. I can understand people saying it's politicians trying to get rich through US companies, but it's not really laundering of any money
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:14 pm to TigersSEC2010
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Imagine flying borderline suicide missions in Ukraine then a week later flying civilian passengers into and out of safe western airports on a 777.
Think of it the other way around.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:50 pm to StormyMcMan
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That's not money laundering though. That's trying to buy influence. Unethical yes, but not exactly illegal.
In order for it to be money laundering it would have to be money received illegally and trying to get it into the banking system. That's why I get very confused in the money laundering claim. I can understand people saying it's politicians trying to get rich through US companies, but it's not really laundering of any money
most are way way way too dumb to understand the difference
Posted on 12/27/22 at 3:56 pm to lsu777
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biden could come out tomorrow and say he is for the wall, for cutting taxes, cutting spending and frankly 100% MAGA and many (especially a high % of PTers) would flip flop and be against it simply because Biden is for it.
Russia has been saying that Ukraine is nothing but a money laundering destination for the west ever since the Maiden Revolution overthrew their puppet who was money laundering for them. That talking point is repeated in the US by people like Michael Flynn (who was a contributor for RT as recently as this year) on social media and fringe sites and those people take it for the Gospel truth.
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they are dumb as frick.
Basically
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:00 pm to Napoleon
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My bad I only asked because in a totally unrelated thread. Two replies to me where "imagine if we spent that money on X rather than laundering it in ukraine"
I wasn't saying you were trying to derail it. I was limiting my response because I didn't want to invite the morons back into the thread.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:04 pm to TigersSEC2010
quote:because they are unimaginably intellectually dishonest and view things entirely through a partisian lense and cant possibly be shown to not absolutely hate anything joe biden does or the MSM reports on
I am as conservative as it gets and I cannot figure out why other conservatives are so pissed that we are essentially paying Ukraine to destroy our enemy.
thats all it is. absurd levels of intellectual dishonesty. if biden did nothing, and our media largely ignored it, and ukraine was swallowed up in about a month, those same people would be sky screaming over how weak biden is, how china is about to do whatever wants, how we should have stood firm and resisted putins power grab, and they just dont understand why our media wont talk about it
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