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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:16 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:16 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah, and I said the shite show is going to be October-December. Tomorrow we're literally at the half way point of my timeline. You've got a long way to go.
I hope your goal posts are on wheels otherwise you are going to end up with a hernia.
I did love how you bugged out when you came in all hot with the interesting take on the Liz Truss cell phone hack that took me all of 5 minutes to track back to its source, a frickin' Kim Dotcom tweet that relied on an impossible time line to have been correct.
I will say it again you are a boiler room cold caller. You make doom porn prediction after prediction knowing you will be wrong 99% of the time. When you are wrong you either disappear or crawfish for more time but when you are kinda sorta right being highly generous to your predictions you are begging for people to recognize your prescience and pop bottles of champagne and toast to your predictive prowess.
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:21 pm to LSUPilot07
Damn, another thread full of great information thats almost impossible to follow due to idiots arguing. Shocking.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:24 pm to lsutigernosaint
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Damn, another thread full of great information thats almost impossible to follow due to idiots arguing. Shocking.
I'll try not ti respond next time but he makes it do easy
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:25 pm to OMLandshark
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It is so absurd that I don’t even need a source.
So you dont have shite. Got it.
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Which may save us from nuclear Armageddon. Correct.
By making it more likely other countries threaten to use nukes offensively to reach their means?
Im sure one of them wont actually pull the trigger in the future?
In your world, probably not. Since we'd bend over and give them what they want immediately.
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Doesn’t excuse what Russia did, but they’re not fully withdrawing no matter what.
At some point, the human and gold costs are just too high. Especially with such a morally dubious cause.
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To a warmonger, every year is 1938.
You want to reward Russia after they started an offensive war with a neighbor and threatened to use nuclear weapons.
You want to give in to the warmonger while claiming those who dont are wanting more destruction.
That isnt how you get peace. Thats how you get more of this.
Yeah, there arent good options. I too, dont like the possibility of nukes. Unlike you, I see the need not give in the moment that saber is rattled.
ETA: Im done for tonight. Get back to the information. Its a much better day when Im not compelled to post, just read the great info provided.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:35 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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so DONT LOOK OVER THERE
Oh, look! It's the anti-Semite accusing Ukrainians of being Nazis. How amusing.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:50 pm to GOP_Tiger
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My sources in the services say that what hit Przewowo is most likely the remains of a rocket shot down by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
LINK
If this is true, then NATO will have a response, but this is not going to draw Poland or NATO directly into the war.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:54 pm to REG861
Now that the simpering pussy has gone to bed, can we get back to discussing today’s events?
Apparently an article 4 meeting will be held to determine if article 5 will be invoked. What are some of the actions that might be taken if article 5 is activated?
I think a logical one will be a no fly zone over all of Ukraine. That would eliminate the possibility of more “accidental” Russian missiles hitting NATO countries.
This would basically hogtie Russia’s “special military operation.” Ukraine could take their time in pushing the Orcs out of their country and reconstruction of cities away from the front lines could begin.
I hope this, at a minimum, happens.
Apparently an article 4 meeting will be held to determine if article 5 will be invoked. What are some of the actions that might be taken if article 5 is activated?
I think a logical one will be a no fly zone over all of Ukraine. That would eliminate the possibility of more “accidental” Russian missiles hitting NATO countries.
This would basically hogtie Russia’s “special military operation.” Ukraine could take their time in pushing the Orcs out of their country and reconstruction of cities away from the front lines could begin.
I hope this, at a minimum, happens.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:55 pm to Kentucker
Did anyone watch the emergency meeting? Has it happened yet?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:58 pm to Kentucker
I just dont see the will to invoke Article 5 for what appears to be accidental.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:02 pm to lsutigernosaint
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Damn, another thread full of great information thats almost impossible to follow due to idiots arguing. Shocking.
Yeah it had been great for the past week or so, or whenever BKR got bounced, and then retarded OML shows up and he’s like catnip to posters.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:03 pm to Duke
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President Biden on if the missile to Poland was fired from Russia:
“There is plenty of information to contest that. I don’t want to say until we completely investigate. It’s unlikely in the minds of trajectory that it was fired from Russia. But we’ll see."
LINK
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:03 pm to Duke
Me either.
On the other hand the next time a Russian jet violates our air space just for funsies I hope we give our air defenses a live fire test run.
On the other hand the next time a Russian jet violates our air space just for funsies I hope we give our air defenses a live fire test run.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:08 pm to Kentucker
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I think a logical one will be a no fly zone over all of Ukraine. That would eliminate the possibility of more “accidental” Russian missiles hitting NATO countries.
Depends on how it was enforced. SAM? Sure, why not. But if Nato starts patrolling with aircraft, it's only a matter of time until one gets shot down. And if that happens, I don't see how we avoid a hot war with Russia, and I don't see how a hot war with Russia doesn't turn into another Iraq.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:11 pm to Duke
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I just dont see the will to invoke Article 5 for what appears to be accidental.
If nothing is done, the Russians will feel emboldened to step up their attacks on Lviv and far western Ukraine knowing that all they have to do is to say,
“Oh, sorry, it was an accident.”
The Russian military has been hitting civilians all over Ukraine and at least one errant missile hit Moldova. They seem to have primitive targeting capabilities.
So, I hope Poland insists on at least a no fly zone to insure that their citizens are safe from Russian missiles.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:13 pm to Kentucker
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So, I hope Poland insists on at least a no fly zone to insure that their citizens are safe from Russian missiles.
Thats an escalation the current situation doesnt warrant imo.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:16 pm to Duke
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Thats an escalation the current situation doesnt warrant imo.
So how many Poles have to die from “accidental” missiles to warrant an action by Poland and NATO?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:18 pm to Joshjrn
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Depends on how it was enforced. SAM? Sure, why not.
So, maintain the status quo by giving Ukraine more missile defenses. How does that stop more errant missiles from hitting Poland?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:22 pm to Joshjrn
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But if Nato starts patrolling with aircraft, it's only a matter of time until one gets shot down. And if that happens, I don't see how we avoid a hot war with Russia
Not necessarily. Russia and Turkey have had several incidences in Syria, including one Russia Sukhoi shot down, that didn't lead to a hot war, despite both remaining on different sides through the conflict.
I think a no-fly zone would be the end of the line sort of response to a series of provocations against a NATO member. If the accident narrative is true, it is hard to see a no-fly zone as a first-line response. Maybe someone can correct me here.
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:22 pm to Kentucker
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So, maintain the status quo by giving Ukraine more missile defenses. How does that stop more errant missiles from hitting Poland?
If Nato deploys aircraft and one is shot down, do you support a fully declared war against Russia? And if so, to what end?
Posted on 11/15/22 at 8:29 pm to Joshjrn
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If Nato deploys aircraft and one is shot down, do you support a fully declared war against Russia? And if so, to what end?
Nobody declares war anymore.
The intent of a no fly zone would be to keep Russia from putting planes and missiles into the air over Ukraine. We did this over Iraq. Any aircraft that went up were shot down. It’s that simple.
If Russia shoots down a NATO aircraft, then the source is destroyed.
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