re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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I think convening an Article 4 meeting was almost certainly going to happen. Question is whether they make it to Article 5, which is what most people are concerned about:

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Correct. Hopefully people don’t misinterpret that. Intent was just to report it, not suggest it as article 5 that you’re correct most people are concerned with.

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I'm sure you are fine with blowing up kids as long as they are Muslims.

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How many times have I bitched in this thread that y’all are the exact same as the people who called people cowards for not being behind the illegal invasion of Iraq? Sorry, you’re just projecting here. Always been anti-war. I think the Afghanistan thread shows I’m not this, and you know it.

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You can't seem to understand who the guilty party is in this

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It’s Putin, although Western prodding helped lead to this.

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keep suggesting people in this thread are worse than fricking Putin.

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Name one time I’ve suggested a poster on this thread is worse than Putin. I do find some to be evil, but Putin is on another level.

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most Americans are sick of this bullshite

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You're making up data again....

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How many times have I bitched in this thread that y’all are the exact same as the people who called people cowards for not being behind the illegal invasion of Iraq?

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Well, thankfully I didn't support that invasion, and have a decade-long post history showing that I've always been anti-war. What you can't understand is that this situation is different. To make this about the Iraq War, you are suggesting that the anti-war action on the part of the Iraqis would have been to not fight at all. That's how idiotic you sound.

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It’s Putin, although Western prodding helped lead to this.

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Yes, Russia is an uncontrollable retard who has to be treated with kid gloves lest they start some insane imperialistic campaign.

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Name one time I’ve suggested a poster on this thread is worse than Putin. I do find some to be evil, but Putin is on another level.

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That fact hasn't given you pause when you talk so freely about what I specifically support. You want to make up things about other people, but can't seem to handle the same. If you want to say nonsense about my positions, am I allowed to fight back? Or is the anti-war position that I should let you continue your drivel?

First you say this...

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most Americans are sick of this bullshite

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then almost immediately say this...

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If you ask the average American 10 billion securing the border vs 100 billion giving it to Ukraine, they’ll go with the former almost every time.

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Stop...moving....goalposts

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I’m not.

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Well, cite your sources if you're not "making it up".

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If you ask the average American 10 billion securing the border vs 100 billion giving it to Ukraine,

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Yeah, if you frame the question in a way to get the answer you want...

you'll get the answer you want.

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Y’all are in a bubble

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It is so apparent you're way too online, it makes this accusation hilarious.

My central issue with your "anti-war" stance is how it keeps directing you to stances that help Russia and hurt Ukraine. It rewards the behavior of the Russians to force Ukraine to the table. It sends the message to every bad actor they'll get what they want if they make it cost too many $$$s.

Or worse, when they threaten to use nukes and you just roll over.

Its not going to lead to a more peaceful and stable world.

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The average American is for giving the most corrupt country in Europe

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Its amazing you can say this about Ukraine when Russia is also in Europe.

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Well, cite your sources if you're not "making it up".

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It is so absurd that I don’t even need a source. The average person would say you’re out of your fricking mind for suggesting such a thing. Only a genocidal warmonger would say otherwise.

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My central issue with your "anti-war" stance is how it keeps directing you to stances that help Russia and hurt Ukraine.

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Which may save us from nuclear Armageddon. Correct. Doesn’t excuse what Russia did, but they’re not fully withdrawing no matter what. Sometimes there are no good options, just better ones.

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Or worse, when they threaten to use nukes and you just roll over.

Its not going to lead to a more peaceful and stable world.

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To a warmonger, every year is 1938. They don’t consider the others.

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But I'm guessing you realized you couldn't back up the things you were making up so rather than admitting failure you just run away back to your bubble

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No, it’s common sense. Say a salesman comes up to you: “So I can secure your border for $10 billion dollars, or I can send $100 billion dollars to corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs, arm dealers, weapon manufacturers, and actual Neo-Nazis for a war going on 5,000 miles away that doesn’t directly concern us. Which one are you going to choose?” That’s an insane question, because we were told that securing the border $10 billion was way too expensive but this is justified. Sorry, 85% of Americans would choose to secure the border for a 1/10th of that price. Y’all are in a cult.

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OMLandshark

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I thought you said you were leaving?