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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:43 pm to
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Do you know how cold Europe gets?


Yes. Which beggars belief why your prediction was October before you retconned it.

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No, he’s turning off the gas when it gets in the low teens to single digits Fahrenheit. He’s not going to do it yet.



As of now, the EU's gas supply from Russia is 9%. You are saying that cutting off that much is going to cause mass riots, governments falling and panic in the streets?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:43 pm to
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Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:49 pm to
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I think convening an Article 4 meeting was almost certainly going to happen. Question is whether they make it to Article 5, which is what most people are concerned about:


Correct. Hopefully people don’t misinterpret that. Intent was just to report it, not suggest it as article 5 that you’re correct most people are concerned with.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39977 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:50 pm to
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If they didn’t have my tax dollar they would be under total Russian rule. So no, I should get to dictate the terms here. We are the investors, and most Americans are sick of this bullshite.



Given the last election, it doesn't seem like it.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:50 pm to
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Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:52 pm to
You are contradicting yourself at every turn while also not presenting factual info. Most Americans are not sick of supporting Ukraine. In fact it’s the opposite:

Reuters - October article/survey
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4704 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:52 pm to
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most Americans are sick of this bullshite


You're making up data again....
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:55 pm to
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Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39977 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:56 pm to
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How many times have I bitched in this thread that y’all are the exact same as the people who called people cowards for not being behind the illegal invasion of Iraq?


Well, thankfully I didn't support that invasion, and have a decade-long post history showing that I've always been anti-war. What you can't understand is that this situation is different. To make this about the Iraq War, you are suggesting that the anti-war action on the part of the Iraqis would have been to not fight at all. That's how idiotic you sound.

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It’s Putin, although Western prodding helped lead to this.



Yes, Russia is an uncontrollable retard who has to be treated with kid gloves lest they start some insane imperialistic campaign.

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Name one time I’ve suggested a poster on this thread is worse than Putin. I do find some to be evil, but Putin is on another level.



That fact hasn't given you pause when you talk so freely about what I specifically support. You want to make up things about other people, but can't seem to handle the same. If you want to say nonsense about my positions, am I allowed to fight back? Or is the anti-war position that I should let you continue your drivel?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4704 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:56 pm to
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Correct. Hopefully people don’t misinterpret that. Intent was just to report it, not suggest it as article 5 that you’re correct most people are concerned with.


I'll wait for the cliffs but I'd wager if you watched this you'd probably get your answer

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??President Biden is holding an ‘Emergency Roundtable’ with fellow world leaders in Bali. The livestream of this will be streamed on YouTube and I’m assuming many news outlets will stream it as well.??


LINK

YouTube link
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4704 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:57 pm to
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If you ask the average American 10 billion securing the border vs 100 billion giving it to Ukraine, they’ll go with the former almost every time.



Can you actually source this or is it you who lives in the bubble?
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6290 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:58 pm to
First you say this...

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most Americans are sick of this bullshite



then almost immediately say this...

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If you ask the average American 10 billion securing the border vs 100 billion giving it to Ukraine, they’ll go with the former almost every time.


Stop...moving....goalposts
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 6:59 pm to
The emergency round table was Biden saying “no” when asked if he can comment on it.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:03 pm to
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I’m not.


Well, cite your sources if you're not "making it up".

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If you ask the average American 10 billion securing the border vs 100 billion giving it to Ukraine,


Yeah, if you frame the question in a way to get the answer you want...

you'll get the answer you want.

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Y’all are in a bubble


It is so apparent you're way too online, it makes this accusation hilarious.

My central issue with your "anti-war" stance is how it keeps directing you to stances that help Russia and hurt Ukraine. It rewards the behavior of the Russians to force Ukraine to the table. It sends the message to every bad actor they'll get what they want if they make it cost too many $$$s.

Or worse, when they threaten to use nukes and you just roll over.

Its not going to lead to a more peaceful and stable world.

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The average American is for giving the most corrupt country in Europe


Its amazing you can say this about Ukraine when Russia is also in Europe.
This post was edited on 11/15/22 at 7:05 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8786 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:05 pm to
So let me get this straight. You’re big idea for “peace” is rewarding Putin for invading another country by giving him part of Ukraine but having Biden sound like the bad guy forcing Zelensky to do this fricked deal? Your logic makes zero sense but then again when does it ever? You would give Putin exactly what he wants just because you’re a pussy.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:06 pm to
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Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4704 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:12 pm to
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It is so absurd that I don’t even need a source


If it's so absurd should be easy to source then right
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:13 pm to
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Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4704 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:14 pm to
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Sorry, 85% of Americans would choose to secure the border for a 1/10th of that price.


Source?
Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
4068 posts
Posted on 11/15/22 at 7:15 pm to
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OMLandshark


I thought you said you were leaving?
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