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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:15 pm to
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@Faytuks From the NYT: There are growing hints from troops on the ground, and volunteers close to them, that the Ukrainians are preparing for a new land offensive south through the Zaporizhzhia region towards Melitopol
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28586 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

the Ukrainians are preparing for a new land offensive south through the Zaporizhzhia region towards Melitopol

Winter shminter, full speed ahead!
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8617 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:26 pm to
They are basically a Ukrainian dune buggy that they have used quite a bit especially in their counterattack in the north where they just got behind the Russians everywhere and caused panic. Ukraine uses a lot these versions and they have a good number of Polaris Ranger UTVs also that are modified to have some sort of machine gun or grenade launcher on them. They have made use of just about everything they have been given in creative ways, it’s really cool to see.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:58 pm to
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They are basically a Ukrainian dune buggy that they have used quite a bit especially in their counterattack in the north where they just got behind the Russians everywhere and caused panic. Ukraine uses a lot these versions and they have a good number of Polaris Ranger UTVs also that are modified to have some sort of machine gun or grenade launcher on them. They have made use of just about everything they have been given in creative ways, it’s really cool to see.


War drives innovation. I've seen the Ukrainians modify their MT-LBs by adding 2A19 anti-tank guns to them, adding a BRDM turret to M113s, not mention modifying the MiGs to fire HARM missises.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:00 pm to
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After Unconfirmed Reports yesterday that Ukrainian Forces had launched an Amphibious Operation on the Kinburn Peninsula, Russian Media Sources are now reporting that AFU Units have entered the City of Herois'ke as Heavy Fighting continues across the Peninsula.

But I would like to make it clear that these reports are still very much Unconfirmed and so far we have not seen any Visual Evidence of this Ukrainian Operation on the Kinburn Peninsula.



LINK
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5083 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:15 pm to
Ok, now do the sentence for non military people in plain English. Or PE for you guys.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8617 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:36 pm to
He is saying that they added a 100 mm anti tank gun to an old soviet APC that didn’t have anything of that type of gun besides a light machine gun and they added a small turret like are on old Soviet lightly armored vehicles to the top of an American M113 APC that did not have a turret on it before. Ukraine is generally a large agricultural country so you have a lot of country boys that are good with a wrench and welding machine so they have made use of weapons that not many would have thought to try.
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:32 pm to
Rybar gets it.


Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:36 pm to
For reference

NATO in 1998

Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
150150 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:38 pm to
looks pretty awesome to me
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5083 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:43 pm to
Alright, that makes sense, great bang for the buck.
Like going hunting with a machine gun.
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:49 pm to
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@Faytuks From the NYT: There are growing hints from troops on the ground, and volunteers close to them, that the Ukrainians are preparing for a new land offensive south through the Zaporizhzhia region towards Melitopol


This is the next logical place. I doubt they can re-organize over there before winter sets in though, they'll spend at least a month stabilizing Kherson. Question is, do they press a conflict in the winter?

I would expect the bulk of the forces to reinforce the east for now until Spring. (Just my guess)
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:50 pm to
What language is that map in?
Posted by Texaggie96
Member since Dec 2018
1381 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

What language is that map in?


Italian. The map was a reference to what Solovyov said he wanted the border to be after Russia built his "new" army. Effectively he wants a return to the Soviet Era Warsaw Pact. No shocker there.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41027 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 4:32 pm to
That 2022 map just reinforces the point there is no logical reason for the US to still be in NATO.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

That 2022 map just reinforces the point there is no logical reason for the US to still be in NATO.

Since the formation of NATO, how many NATO nations have been attacked by another nation?
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8170 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 4:46 pm to
It really shows the magnitude of Putin's mistake in invading Ukraine. The future version of that map will have Sweden, Finland, and Ukraine all in NATO.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8617 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 4:57 pm to
That’s not nearly enough soldiers for an offensive on Melitopol. I think both sides need time to refit and regroup though so we will probably see little movement in the short term. Probably trading artillery fire a few weeks. Of course Ukraine seems to strike when least expected so who knows what’s in store.
Posted by jfan244888
Soda City, SC
Member since Jul 2021
1150 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 5:19 pm to
Ukraine has been storing manpower and artillery in that area since mid summer.

Give em a couple weeks.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8617 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 6:01 pm to
They also have Krab self propelled howitzers with 1500 round barrels with 5,000+ rounds shot and counting on them and German PzH2000s that while great when they have been available seem to be pretty maintenance intensive. Not trying to sound negative at all just a simple fact on the battlefield. These are the times Russia’s dominance in munitions amounts really makes a difference. I’m confident Ukraine will hold the line like always though but after the offensive up north and taking Kherson I figured there had to be a slow down phase eventually. Maybe this is it, maybe they push one more time, it will be interesting to see how they play this.
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