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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:16 am to
Posted by jefffan
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:16 am to
Random thought: Imagine if the U.S. withdrawal (as bad and chaotic as it was) from Afghanistan went the like this Russian retreat is going.

We'd be so far down the line of succession I'm not even sure who'd be president
Posted by jefffan
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 12:18 am to
They legitimately thought they'd be done by April with zero plan about what'd happen if that didn't work.

The West warned them and they did it anyway. And sadly poor Ivan's in BFE Russia are the only ones paying the price so far.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 3:30 am to
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Footage has been circling telegram showing the Russians dropping the Kherson rail bridge over the Dnipro.


As you know these are the times that OSINT gets really sketchy.

If Russia blows the bridges given they have had time to prepare since they chose the time to retreat then they are idiots or have no plans to cross the river again anytime soon if ever.

The proper way to proceed here is to wire the bridge with explosives and only drop it if it is necessary assuming you ever plan to cross the river again.
Posted by Capt ST
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 4:12 am to
If I’m Ukraine, I’m taking some bridges out across the border.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 4:26 am to
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If I’m Ukraine, I’m taking some bridges out across the border.


If they had the capability they should/would take out the first bridge inside their border with Russia on every road/rail route even if it was just over a creek or ravine. If they had wired those bridges during Russia's buildup and clacked them off the second Russia crossed the border they would have seriously blunted that first deep incursion.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 5:07 am to
Talking head on Russian TV saying he can't talk about the withdrawal from Kherson could he could go to jail no matter which position he takes.

Twitter

Besides the freedom of speech issues it brings up it shines a light on the problems Russia made for itself when it decided to annex these parts of Ukraine. Consider how many "Russians" they are killing now with their inaccurate and/or indiscriminate artillery fire.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 5:31 am to
Kherson has gone back to the Ukrainians. Watch the casualty numbers over the next week. It’s going to be confirmed by RU GRU in staging areas in the next 24-36 hrs…if you were hated by command you were left to defend the “retreat” there are a few things that will require immediate attention by Ukraine.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 5:40 am to
Who did it better? BTW my boy Vlad was watching Zelensky sing and dance on the stage when he did that. How times have changed in 9 years.



Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 5:41 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 11 November 2022

Since 10 October, Russia has attacked Ukraine with a campaign of strikes targeting electric power infrastructure. To date, this action has come in waves. The most recent intense strikes were on 31 October, which involved targeting hydroelectric dam facilities for the first time. The strikes have resulted in widespread damage to transmission stations and power plants. Scheduled and emergency blackouts have become routine in parts of Ukraine, with Kyiv notably impacted.

Recoverability varies, and the impacts of strikes are unlikely to be felt uniformly. Continued degradation of networks by Russian strikes will almost certainly have consequences for interlinked water and heating systems, that will be most significantly felt by the civilian population during winter, as demand increases.

Russian strikes on power generation and transmission are having a disproportionate effect upon civilians in Ukraine, indiscriminately impacting critical functions such as healthcare and heating. The continued prioritisation of critical national infrastructure over military targets strongly implies Russian intent to strike at civilian morale.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 5:58 am to
The Russian Defence Ministry said that Russian troops have completely withdrawn from Kherson
Iryna Balachuk — Friday, 11 November 2022, 12:17

The Russian Defence Ministry said that all the occupation forces left Kherson and crossed to the Left Bank of the Dnipro without suffering any losses.

Source: Russian propaganda publication "RIA Novosti"

Quote from the Russian Defence Ministry: "During the transfer to the left bank of the Dnipro, not a single unit of military equipment and weapons on the right bank was left, all Russian servicemen crossed, losses of personnel, weapons, equipment and material resources of the Russian group were not allowed."

Details: It is reported that the withdrawal of the Russian invaders ended at 5 am on 11 November.

Ukrainska Pravda


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 6:34 am to
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Quote from the Russian Defence Ministry: "During the transfer to the left bank of the Dnipro, not a single unit of military equipment and weapons on the right bank was left, all Russian servicemen crossed, losses of personnel, weapons, equipment and material resources of the Russian group were not allowed


I mean to claim not a single casualty in this situation is just a bold face lie that can be proven false with ease in the coming days. Should have just said it wasn't a rout
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 6:36 am to
quote:

Civilians gathering in Kherson centre awaiting the arrival of the liberation army.


LINK

Probably some kind of stock video but damn I want it to be true

ETA
Guess it is true
quote:

Local residents are posting videos from the center of Kherson on social networks.


LINK
This post was edited on 11/11/22 at 6:40 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 6:41 am to
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I mean to claim not a single casualty in this situation is just a bold face lie that can be proven false with ease in the coming days. Should have just said it wasn't a rout


The fear is palpable. They went right passed "minimal losses" which of course is subjective to no losses which only a Soviet-era babushka would believe and only then because she would be afraid that if she thought it was even an exaggeration she might me jailed or killed.

Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 6:43 am to
Supposed to be massive casualties for Russia from Kherson.

I don't follow this much, but apparently Russian troops had to cross a river and got their asses handed to them. Im guessing it was a pinch point and the Ukrainians just teed off.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 6:47 am to
There are now videos of Ukrainian troops in the city center of Kherson.

There are also videos of Ukrainian forces in Beryslav, only 6 miles from the dam.

No Ukrainian forces are facing any resistance anywhere. There was no "fighting retreat.". I can only imagine how much stuff got left behind.
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2869 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 6:50 am to
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Ukrainian Air Force Command spokesperson Yuriy Ignat stated that Russian force will likely slow the pace of their campaign against Ukrainian infrastructure.


Why would the Russians do that? This seems to be one of their strongest plays.... unless they are waiting for Iranian missiles.

Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned that Ukraine had 2 factories turning out 155mm (and/or 152mm shells). I would think these would be high priority targets for the Russians.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 6:53 am to
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Why would the Russians do that? This seems to be one of their strongest plays.... unless they are waiting for Iranian missiles.


Russia has limited stores of smart long range munitions.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5910 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 7:00 am to
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There are now videos of Ukrainian troops in the city center of Kherson. There are also videos of Ukrainian forces in Beryslav, only 6 miles from the dam. No Ukrainian forces are facing any resistance anywhere. There was no "fighting retreat.". I can only imagine how much stuff got left behind.


If this is true and Ukraine is about to fully control the West Bank of the dniper I am just speechless.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 7:03 am to
And if Russia launches 20 missiles and drones, Ukrainian forces can easily shoot down almost all of them. And Ukraine has already gotten and is getting much, much better air defense systems from the West.

Russia's only chance to do anything to Ukrainian infrastructure is to accumulate a big stash, get their submarines fully loaded and in position, etc., and then launch a sudden, massive assault that overcomes the Ukrainian air defense and allows some missiles to get through.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30520 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 7:03 am to
Well, the Russians absolutely destroyed the Antonovsky Bridge.


YT

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