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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:47 pm to DabosDynasty
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:47 pm to DabosDynasty
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Since we’re on day 246 of the war, that estimates they’ve spent about $221.4 Billion on this war so far.
If that's right that's damn near 5% of their PPP GDP just on this operation. Hell just their annual budget in 2021 was $65.9B, so that's almost 4x increase and 1.5% of GDP
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:48 pm to JayDeerTay84
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No I am clear. The US/West/Nato have given Ukraine in aid more than Russia spends in a year on its military by multiples.
Also just a straight up false statement and easily checked, you nimrod.
Russia's military budget is ~$78B. As of two weeks ago, the United States had dispensed about ~$17B of its committed pool of ~$55B with the UK coming in second in dispensed aid at ~$2B this year. No other country, NATO or otherwise, has dispensed more than $1B to Ukraine.
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:49 pm to cypher
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... Russian President Vladimir Putin's decree [for] the 'development of security measures' in Russia's regions... introducing a new regimen of security alert levels.
quote:It seems some of the Regional governments need to be reined in, something that will be resisted to differing degrees. But resisted. It will certainly enhance the local discussions about full declared political independence from Moscow.
The greater involvement of regional officials is likely at least partially designed to deflect public criticism away from the national leadership. The Kremlin pursued a similar approach during the COVID-19 crisis. However, it will likely make it more difficult for the Kremlin to insulate Russian society from the effects of the 'special military operation' in Ukraine.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:50 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Well It certainly isn't a disaster as so many of you claim. You guys think you know the Russian people but you are far off base.
Imagine spewing copium faster than the Russian state TV talking heads. Even they have been very clear about how big a disaster the SMO has been and discuss it regularly with disgust and dissatisfaction.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:56 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Its just not reality though. Russia only committed a fraction of their manpower here and used most of the men via proxy via LPR, DPR...
Most of the initial force of Russia's 150K men did NOT do the heavy lifting and remained relatively in tact.
You mean like the Russian 1st Guards Tank Army that lost half of its fighting force in Ukraine? The premiere Russian unit tasked to counterattack any invasion by NATO forces. You either read and then post incorrect information or you simply make shite up. which is it?
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:57 pm to StormyMcMan
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If you actually care to research this, it's almost always given as a percent of GDP not actual dollars. NATO commitments are a percent of GDP not dollars for example. A $1 trillion economy can supply $50B to something and not blink an eye whereas a $100B economy could not even come close to matching that. If they did, it would be seen as a massive investment not as a drop in the bucket. You have to take into account the economic size. Choosing to ignore that is either ignorance or just being a dumb arse
Can Russia be self sufficient without the US dollar or not?
If the answer is yes, then it doesnt matter as we are seeing it play out.
GDP is a measure of market activity and not of an economies well being when looked at specifically.
With regards to this push for global conflict, sides will be taken and the US dollar value of such things with regards to Russia wont really mean much in the context of Russia.
Russia is important where it matters most.
Natural resources (3rd in Oil production, 2nd in Natural gas), Nukes, and military.
The US's capability to have an economy buying trillions worth of supercilious consumer goods wont mean much in the inevitable push to global perpetual war.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 12:59 pm to Obtuse1
I get a healthy distrust of American media but acting like Russian state tv and their online propaganda are truth is comedy. So many messageboard Americans happily guzzle down Russian disinformation…it’s stunning.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:00 pm to Obtuse1
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Imagine spewing copium faster than the Russian state TV talking heads. Even they have been very clear about how big a disaster the SMO has been and discuss it regularly with disgust and dissatisfaction.
I understand all that. However, they are disgusted because they did not commit a full force. Its been an known for a while now Ukraine has had superior manpower numbers for quite some time on the front. That is the major issues for Russia right now. Lack of manpower and support.
Though, that is changing as Russia took a more serious approach.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:02 pm to SoonerK
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You mean like the Russian 2ND STRING Guards Tank Army that lost half of its fighting force in Ukraine?
FIFY
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:04 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Natural resources (3rd in Oil production, 2nd in Natural gas), Nukes, and military.
And what do Russians do when it’s time to eat?
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:05 pm to doubleb
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And what do Russians do when it’s time to eat?
Are you suggesting there are no farms in Russia? They are one of the worlds largest wheat exporter.....3rd behind China and India. Both, whom, are their friends.
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:07 pm to JayDeerTay84
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I understand all that. However, they are disgusted because they did not commit a full force. Its been an known for a while now Ukraine has had superior manpower numbers for quite some time on the front. That is the major issues for Russia right now. Lack of manpower and support. Though, that is changing as Russia took a more serious approach.
You say disgusting, I said disastrous.
You say but the lights are off, I say Russia has major issues.
You say Russia is serious now, I said it got serious when thousands of Russians went home in body bags.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:09 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Are you suggesting there are no farms in Russia? They are one of the worlds largest wheat exporter.....3rd behind China and India. Both, whom, are their friends.
I’m saying Russians have had millions of people starve to death. They have a penchant for mismanaging what God gave them. They are doing it right now.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:11 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Russia is important where it matters most. Natural resources (3rd in Oil production, 2nd in Natural gas),nukes, and military
One of these things is not like the others.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:13 pm to doubleb
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I’m saying Russians have had millions of people starve to death. They have a penchant for mismanaging what God gave them. They are doing it right now.
Ok? Doesn't change the reality of what they have. As I have said.
I have no desire to live in Russia, be a Russian or any of that. I just point out that the narrative that Russia is weak is totally false and at some point, things will escalate in a way that is irreversible and millions will then die by fire.
I dont want that.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:19 pm to JayDeerTay84
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With regards to this push for global conflict, sides will be taken and the US dollar value of such things with regards to Russia wont really mean much in the context of Russia.
Russia is important where it matters most.
Natural resources (3rd in Oil production, 2nd in Natural gas), Nukes, and military.
The US's capability to have an economy buying trillions worth of supercilious consumer goods wont mean much in the inevitable push to global perpetual war.
Why is Russia pushing for global war and why do you support that?
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:22 pm to TBoy
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Why is Russia pushing for global war and why do you support that?
I believe there has been no greater threat to global conflict than the USA's efforts of perpetual conflict over the last 20+ years.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:23 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Ok? Doesn't change the reality of what they have. As I have said.
90% of what you posted in the last hour or so isn’t reality.
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I have no desire to live in Russia, be a Russian or any of that. I just point out that the narrative that Russia is weak is totally false and at some point, things will escalate in a way that is irreversible and millions will then die by fire.
Russia has failed to death. Their conventional military strength has been exposed and it isn’t nearly what it once was.
No question though their nuclear Arsenal is immense. But like out nuclear Arsenal, what good is it if using it destroys the world?
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:24 pm to JayDeerTay84
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I believe there has been no greater threat to global conflict than the USA's efforts of perpetual conflict over the last 20+ years.
So you believe Russian nukes are on the table over this war?
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:26 pm to JayDeerTay84
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I believe there has been no greater threat to global conflict than the USA's efforts of perpetual conflict over the last 20+ years.
What Russia is doing more is way more concerning than anything we have done.
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