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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 10/15/22 at 9:55 am to LSUPilot07
Posted on 10/15/22 at 9:55 am to LSUPilot07
Assuming we would have defeated the Soviet conventional armies, could you imagine trying to occupy the country post conflict.
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Posted on 10/15/22 at 9:57 am to OleWar
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Assuming we would have defeated the Soviet conventional armies, could you imagine trying to occupy the country post conflict.
Possibly welcomed with open arms other than Moscow and St. Petersburg. Far too much land to occupy. The Wehrmacht sure was at first until the Nazis started doing their thing to the locals
This post was edited on 10/15/22 at 10:06 am
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:13 am to CitizenK
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Possibly welcomed with open arms other than Moscow and St. Petersburg
In the ethnic Republics yes, but Moscow and St. Petersburg have always been more liberal than the other Russian provinces and cities. The Red Belt Region gave the most support to the communists, before, during and immediately after the fall of the Soviet Union,and has been the center of support to Putin.
Map below of sub-divisions of this phenomenon.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:14 am to CitizenK
Apparently, Ukrainian offensives in Xerson have been repelled so far. Could it be that AFU has simply exhausted itself?? I am truly surprised by their lack of progress given their numerical superiority.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:17 am to BrianKellyRespecter
Your act is so damn lame
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:20 am to notiger1997
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Your act is so damn lame
I think it's hilarious. I always enjoyed Baghdad Bob, and BKR does the same stuff.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:22 am to WeeWee
I kind of understand the concept of not destroying old equipment. I know the old tanks can’t get in a tank battle , but arnt they good for stationary short range artillery? Give the paranoid nature of Russia I can see them hoarding everything. I know during the Korean War we regretted the millions of tons of equipment we just dumped into the ocean. But, given I’m not military.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:24 am to OleWar
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Conflict by OleWarAssuming we would have defeated the Soviet conventional armies, could you imagine trying to occupy the country post conflict.
We would have lost 100s of thousands of good American boys and for what?
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:25 am to GOP_Tiger
from The Kyiv Independent
Germany hands over 16 Biber bridge-layer tanks to Ukraine.
The German Defense Ministry pledged the delivery in late July, saying that the tanks “will enable Ukrainian troops to cross waters or obstacles in combat.” According to the country's government, Germany also supplied Ukraine with ten pontoon bridge machines.
On Oct. 12, the German government announced it would hand over to Ukraine more Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled howitzers and MARS II multiple rocket launchers “in the next few weeks.”
Germany hands over 16 Biber bridge-layer tanks to Ukraine.
The German Defense Ministry pledged the delivery in late July, saying that the tanks “will enable Ukrainian troops to cross waters or obstacles in combat.” According to the country's government, Germany also supplied Ukraine with ten pontoon bridge machines.
On Oct. 12, the German government announced it would hand over to Ukraine more Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled howitzers and MARS II multiple rocket launchers “in the next few weeks.”
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:25 am to BrianKellyRespecter
I haven’t really had time to dig; however, I am not seeing anything from the Ukrainian social media sphere indicating any large Ukrainian offensive anywhere.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:26 am to jeffsdad
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I kind of understand the concept of not destroying old equipment. I know the old tanks can’t get in a tank battle , but arnt they good for stationary short range artillery? Give the paranoid nature of Russia I can see them hoarding everything. I know during the Korean War we regretted the millions of tons of equipment we just dumped into the ocean. But, given I’m not military.
Anyone who trusts Soviet made steel is a fool.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:38 am to OleWar
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US benefits financially from automobile accidents
You don't understand fundamental economics.
If I burn down my house, and then spend $1 million to rebuild my house, then I haven't created any economic value.
If instead my house didn't burn down, I would spend that $1 million on a new piece of machinery for my factory. And that machinery employed 5 people. And I bought raw materials and sold finished products, then I would be creating value for the economy.
Destroying something and then building it back gets you nowhere. It's just a socialist redistribution of assets. It destroys wealth, not creates it.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:42 am to Chromdome35
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I haven’t really had time to dig; however, I am not seeing anything from the Ukrainian social media sphere indicating any large Ukrainian offensive anywhere
Same
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:50 am to No Colors
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You don't understand fundamental economics.
If I burn down my house, and then spend $1 million to rebuild my house, then I haven't created any economic value.
If instead my house didn't burn down, I would spend that $1 million on a new piece of machinery for my factory. And that machinery employed 5 people. And I bought raw materials and sold finished products, then I would be creating value for the economy.
Destroying something and then building it back gets you nowhere. It's just a socialist redistribution of assets. It destroys wealth, not creates it.
It's a lot more nuanced than that.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 10:54 am to Chromdome35
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I haven’t really had time to dig; however, I am not seeing anything from the Ukrainian social media sphere indicating any large Ukrainian offensive anywhere.
There was a lot of chatter earlier this morning USA time but it has died down. Don't know if it was fake news or what. WeeWee was posting a few pages back some Uke sources saying heavy fighting in Kherson and I was seeing the same from some Russian accounts I follow but it has died down. Don't know what's really going on.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 11:03 am to SlimTigerSlap
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It's a lot more nuanced than that.
How?
Let me explain a fundamental principal of economics: wealth is created through investment.
Now explain how wealth is created through destroying assets. Take your time. Be specific.
Or if you don't know what you're talking about, then keep your mouth shut.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 11:11 am to TigerDoc
quote:This would be a very bad idea. For months he has been highly critical of the MoD and indirectly the Kremlin and surprisingly gets away with it. Why is he so untouchable?
ETA: I'm also seeing now a claim from a Russian war correspondent that Girkin [Strelkov] has joined one of the new mobilized Russian units.
As a former FSB officer and prime mover for the annexation and war in the Donbas from before 2014, he knows all the dirt on all the players. And the major skeleton in that giant closet? The shooting down of MA17. He would know who is actually responsible. Therefore, he should avoid any combat zone. Even if he has left a video in a safe place just in case, accidents happen.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 11:16 am to BrianKellyRespecter
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Apparently, Ukrainian offensives in Xerson have been repelled so far. Could it be that AFU has simply exhausted itself?? I am truly surprised by their lack of progress given their numerical superiority.
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There was a lot of chatter earlier this morning USA time but it has died down. Don't know if it was fake news or what. WeeWee was posting a few pages back some Uke sources saying heavy fighting in Kherson and I was seeing the same from some Russian accounts I follow but it has died down. Don't know what's really going on
Posted on 10/15/22 at 11:24 am to BrianKellyRespecter
How can you even insinuate the Ukrainians have exhausted themselves when they have cut the Russians supply lines to Kherson? They don’t have to rush headlong into fire like Russian tactics dictate they send their men into like cannon fodder. They have the benefit of slowly strangling they Kherson garrison until it’s destroyed or surrenders.
Posted on 10/15/22 at 11:29 am to No Colors
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How?
Let me explain a fundamental principal of economics: wealth is created through investment.
Now explain how wealth is created through destroying assets. Take your time. Be specific.
Or if you don't know what you're talking about, then keep your mouth shut.
Calm down brother. I'm just saying not everything is black and white. Sometimes destruction can lead to economic growth, activity, and opportunity.
Example: Hurricane destroys piece shite town built with outdated infrastructure. You obviously don't rebuild the same. You build with new technology and innovation. The town becomes attractive to investors and consumers alike.
Example: Outdated movie theater burns down. With the help of insurance and new investment, a bigger/ better theater boasting IMAX and premium sound is built in its place. Foot traffic increases, followed by revenue and profit.
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