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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:44 pm to
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I wouldn’t say Putin has outmaneuvered anybody. They’ve been really sloppy and have been following a completely contrived process.



The problem is we are applying western morals to solve a problem with a very non-western morals dictator

It's time to physically bloody his nose
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:47 pm to
Or better, take his money
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:48 pm to
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I wouldn’t say Putin has outmaneuvered anybody. They’ve been really sloppy and have been following a completely contrived process.


We’ll call it what you will but Putin is doing whatever the hell he wants and nobody can stop him.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:51 pm to
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To believe that Putin has outmaneuvered every other world leader on this issue doesn’t mean you like and support Russian agression.


That really doesn't answer my question.
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:53 pm to
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That really doesn't answer my question.


Well the question wasn’t posed to me but sure, I’ll answer.

I believe that Putin is the most competent leader in this world event right now as far as achieving his goals. Savvy and genius are relevant terms in this case.
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:55 pm to
Well NATO could stop Putin but they are trying to avoid all out war and massive loss of life.
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:05 pm to
USAF C-130 just landed in Latvia

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32721 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:11 pm to
Middle of the night and Google Maps is showing some traffic out of Kharkiv.
Posted by BohicaBob
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:26 pm to
NOTAM issued for the closure of Dnipro airport now.
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:32 pm to
Not sure if already shared but this is a cool interactive battle map

LINK

Posted by Buck Magnum
Springdale
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:33 pm to
Joe blames the damn economy on everything.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 4:49 pm to
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Honest question: are you in the Tucker and Pompeo camp and impressed with Putin and his savvy genuis and leadership?


I mean, Putin is clearly highly intelligent, but no. This is the result on having a weak President. Here’s the type of guy Putin is: he once commented on an NFL player’s Super Bowl Ring, asks if he can inspect, and then he just walks off with it with no fricks given. Anyone who trusts that guy with anything is an idiot, so no I’m not impressed by Putin, just pissed at the weak leaders the weak men in the West have elected.
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:02 pm to
The US is not going to be the aggressor here. If you think attacking Russia or that they are outmaneuvering NATO you are an idiot. Putin is a literal dictator. He doesn't answer to anyone. Dictators always have more direct power than republics. Those powers include military and the economy Communism is a command economy. Putin can and does direct it with a stroke of the pen. Republics rely on capitalism/ free markets, as well require a congress to pass a budget for government spending. Did you not take a civics class? Have you ever ready anything about power? Machevelli, Sun Tzu? Anything?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:10 pm to
Peace is for the women. And the weak. Empires are forged by war.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:13 pm to
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The US is not going to be the aggressor here.


Where did I say that? They just realize that we have a weak and senile President right now and are now moving to take both Ukraine and Taiwan.

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If you think attacking Russia or that they are outmaneuvering NATO you are an idiot.


I don’t think that. We can not go to war over Ukraine. Taiwan though I think is worth defending.

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Putin is a literal dictator. He doesn't answer to anyone. Dictators always have more direct power than republics. Those powers include military and the economy Communism is a command economy. Putin can and does direct it with a stroke of the pen. Republics rely on capitalism/ free markets, as well require a congress to pass a budget for government spending. Did you not take a civics class? Have you ever ready anything about power? Machevelli, Sun Tzu? Anything?


Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
11300 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:13 pm to
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Putin is a literal dictator. He doesn't answer to anyone. Dictators always have more direct power than republics.


Agreed, but Putin's power isn't unlimited. His hour speech the other night laying out reason for invading Ukraine was to try to win public support at home for this invasion. If Putin stops before taking the whole of Ukraine, it's because he doesn't have the full support at home to get dragged into a large war. Not because of US/EU sanctions.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:14 pm to
Yet Europe and the US has barely lifted a finger
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:14 pm to
I'm talking about you being ignorant. Presidential powers are laid out in the constitution. Are you calling the constitution weak?
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:16 pm to
#TeamPutin

Ukraine is WEAK!!!
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19165 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:20 pm to
If they attack Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania or Poland we will have no choice but to fight. Both because of NATO and because I think if Russia is invading multiple countries, that would be when someone needs to step up to defend freedom and sovereignty. The US would have to do the bulk of the fighting but I think the former Eastern Bloc countries would help because they don't want to go back under Russia's thumb. Western Europe won't do shite. The people are far too docile and traumatized by the World Wars and they will fold in case of a war.
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