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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:24 pm to
Added to OP
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:25 pm to
I don't understand why anyone would be pro-Russia unless you just self-hate the US that much. Russia is a playground bully of international politics
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:27 pm to
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Putin is clearly highly intelligent, but no. This is the result on having a weak President


So expand on this.

Are the talking points I'm seeing from the Right designed as a domestic political stance just for the sake of owning the Left? For guys who "love Reagan", they sure are impressed with ol' Savvy Putin.

You're down with their praises?
Posted by BohicaBob
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:32 pm to
Recognizing and acknowledging your adversaries strengths is what smart people do. All of these emotional outbursts about Trump’s comments are 100% about the childish hatred of Trump and have exactly 0% to do with Putin or Russia. The two aren’t even remotely related. Anyone who still thinks Trump was a Russian asset or weak on Putin is completely ignorant to things that have actually happened and those people are to be ignored just like you would ignore 7 year old in regards to geopolitics.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:34 pm to

Didn't mention Trump...
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:36 pm to
For all their talk of liberty, the far right loves them an authoritarian every bit as much as the far left.

That said, when the Russians revert to form and start trying to suppress the inevitable insurgency in typical brutal Russian fashion, and it's streamed live by every Ukrainian with a GoPro, they're gonna deny ever being on Team Putin. Unfortunately for them, the internet is forever.
Posted by BohicaBob
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:39 pm to
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Didn't mention Trump...


Dude you used his words savvy and genius? Don’t play semantics


Also seeing Twitter traffic about a blackout in Kharkiv.
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:44 pm to
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don't understand why anyone would be pro-Russia unless you just self-hate the US that much. Russia is a playground bully of international politics


I'm certain Reagan and Bush would adore Putin's progress and 4D chess. Having worked very hard to end the CW and all. They were my Presidents from age 10 to 22 but maybe OML can correct why I'm wrong.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:45 pm to
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Dude you used his words savvy and genius? Don’t play semantics


Hmm. So, is Pompeo and the rest of Fox just going along?
Posted by BohicaBob
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:45 pm to
Wouldn’t know man
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:47 pm to

Crazy how everyone has the same script, err, admiration but ok. Thanks for the feedback.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:50 pm to
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Can SF halo jump out of a Rivet?


Looking at the RC-135 it doesn't really look feasible. The rear door is very high on the plane's waist and right in line with the tail. Look at Herc for comparison, low door, and high tail section. Going out that small door in line with the tail geared up for HAHO or HALO is a recipe for disaster. Plus I bet at altitude the RC-135 has a pretty high stall speed.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:54 pm to

How low is a low open generally
Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 5:59 pm to
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Western Europe won't do shite. The people are far too docile and traumatized by the World Wars and they will fold in case of a war.

So why then should I send my kid over there to die when those more likely to be affected by the turmoil won't do anything? Being the world's police has caused us to stray so far from our founding principles.
Posted by Palmetto98
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:01 pm to
No we just don’t think we should be involved in Ukraine because it’s none of our damn concern.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:08 pm to
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So expand on this.

Are the talking points I'm seeing from the Right designed as a domestic political stance just for the sake of owning the Left? For guys who "love Reagan", they sure are impressed with ol' Savvy Putin.

You're down with their praises?


This isn’t happening because Putin is a genius. This is happening because Western leaders are oligarchical pussies who will Russia and China bully them into anything.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:12 pm to
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I'm talking about you being ignorant. Presidential powers are laid out in the constitution. Are you calling the constitution weak?


This administration has openly said it violates the Constitution not giving a shite saying they’ll just wait for the courts to swat it down while they do it anyway. We’re well past on what is and isn’t constitutional.
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:12 pm to
I know you’ll get rolling or your libertarianism but in short I’d rather us be world police than an authoritarian superpower. It’s not like Russia and China are small backwaters like Vietnam or Afghanistan. They would probably pose a serious threat to our way of life if they gain global hegemony. China is already doing it. And also we have an all volunteer army with a ton of reservists. If your kid doesn’t want to fight and was forced into it we would have bigger problems
Posted by red sox fan 13
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:13 pm to
You can not want to send US troops and still favor Ukraine. You political board people only see it in a binary way for some reason.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:14 pm to
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I'm certain Reagan and Bush would adore Putin's progress and 4D chess. Having worked very hard to end the CW and all. They were my Presidents from age 10 to 22 but maybe OML can correct why I'm wrong.


I’m not a GOP sycophant. I think all of our Presidents should be in jail for war crimes. Respect for them is low.
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