re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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OK boomer. The Soviet Union has been dead and gone for 30 years. The Russian Federation poses ZERO national security threat to the United States unless you consider maintaining the nations of Eastern Europe as our vassal states as vital to our national interest, which I for one do n

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I didn’t realize Russia gave up their enormous nuclear Arsenal.
I also thought they were supporters of Iran, and other terrorists. Terrorists who have killed Americans. And yes, they have repeatedly threatened our allies. Allies who have helped us when called upon.

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Arsenal

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Scum.

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We are helping them because this unprovoked aggression by Russia cannot be a precedent for the world.

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Give me a break. First of all, it shouldn't be our responsibility to be guarantor of world peace which is the fundamental premise of what you're saying. Second of all, the idea that the USA is the guarantor of world peace is a fricking joke--no country on earth has engaged in more unprovoked aggression in this century than we have. What you're really saying is, no countries can engage in unprovoked aggression against other countries unless it's us, or one of our proxies. I don't happen to share that opinion.

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The US would not be worse off if countries on the other side of the world invaded their neighbors for any reason. Correct.

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Then you would like a world like pre-WWI excrpt this time nations have nukes.

We could just sit on our side of the oceans and let SK and NK Duke it out. Or perhaps India and Pakistan. Maybe Iran and Israel or Russia and England. How about China and Japan?

How could that affect us?

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Assuming the US Navy keeps shipping lanes open to keep commerce flowing and assuming nobody attacks our ships, it wouldn't affect us at all.

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No way would radiation impact the US. No way would our economy be impacted. And how could our navy keep trade lanes open without getting “involved” if there were nations able to trade with us?

A works without order is what we had in 1914. There was no super power to set things straight. One incident involved numerous nations and eventually the world was at war. Eventually it led to WWII.

And just think if countries had nukes what could happen if we just stayed on the side lines.

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Assuming the US Navy keeps shipping lanes open to keep commerce flowing and assuming nobody attacks our ships, it wouldn't affect us at all.

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You are so sure in your ignorance.

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Ukranian sovereignty is more dubious than many countries

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That’s complete horse shite. Ukraine is a sovereign nation state recognition by every country in the world.

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legitimate basis for us to be involved in this war, period.

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Uh we signed a treaty to help defend Ukraine. So yes there is a reason for us to be involved. Go educate yourself.

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You are so sure in your ignorance.

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Understatement. He posted this 7 days ago.

Ukrainian forces advances have completely stalled. Totally exhausted themselves taking back eastern Kharkiv Oblast which Russia didn’t even want to annex. Will never take Lyman. Will never take Kherson. Russia about to formally annex occupied territories. Pee yellow flag of Ukraine will never fly on any of them again. GAE BTFO.

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Well, an information coup has begun in the Russian information space against the Russian Ministry of Defense - more precisely, its leadership and command on the ground.

In the same row, Ramzan Kadyrov, Yevgeny Prigozhin, channels controlled by Lubyanka, representatives of security officials of all stripes - from the Russian Guard to the RF Armed Forces, State Duma deputies - immigrants from the Russian Ministry of Defense are joining.

There have been similar attempts to stir up society before. But now they are initiated from above.

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"But now they are initiated from above." - Putin's found his scapegoat.

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Either be an isolationist or don’t. But if you want commerce to keep flowing you are a card carrying member of Pax America.

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I am a proud pro-business isolationist. We keep the shipping lanes open. You frick with the shipping lanes, you frick with us. Otherwise, do what you want. That is my position. I understand reasonable minds can disagree about this.