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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
478758 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:45 pm to
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We thank the “Ministry of Defense” of RU for successful cooperation in organizing the "Izyum 2.0" exercise. Almost all russian troops deployed to Lyman were successfully redeployed either into body bags or into UA captivity. We have one question for you: Would you like a repeat?


Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:50 pm to
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@guyelster #BREAKING Chechen leader Kadyrov says #Russia should consider using low yield nuclear weapon in #Ukraine after Lyman defeat
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:53 pm to
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@guyelster #BREAKING Chechen leader Kadyrov says #Russia should consider using low yield nuclear weapon in #Ukraine after Lyman defeat


That should take care of the Nazis, money launderers and globalists.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:57 pm to
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We thank the “Ministry of Defense” of RU for successful cooperation in organizing the "Izyum 2.0" exercise. Almost all russian troops deployed to Lyman were successfully redeployed either into body bags or into UA captivity. We have one question for you: Would you like a repeat?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 1:57 pm to
If Russia uses nukes it will be about 1 hour before people on the poli board are posting Russia disinfo saying it was actually the CIA who used nukes
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45706 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:05 pm to
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We thank the “Ministry of Defense” of RU for successful cooperation in organizing the "Izyum 2.0" exercise. Almost all russian troops deployed to Lyman were successfully redeployed either into body bags or into UA captivity. We have one question for you: Would you like a repeat?


Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:08 pm to
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Just not Ukrainian sovereignty


It's not that I don't respect Ukranian sovereignty, although Ukranian sovereignty is more dubious than many countries. The fact of the matter is that there is no legitimate basis for us to be involved in this war, period. I would say the same thing if it was any other two countries.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5992 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:09 pm to
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If Russia uses nukes it will be about 1 hour before people on the poli board are posting Russia disinfo saying it was actually the CIA who used nukes


If it makes Biden and the libs look bad, a solid chunk of today’s GOP would welcome a nuke going off in Kiev.
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:11 pm to
Update: frontlines have been reestablished at Kreminnia, Luganst Oblast, Russian Federation.

Meanwhile, in Kherson Oblast, Russian Federation, AFU terrorists have been pushed back to pre-Kherson offensive frontlines.

This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5992 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:12 pm to
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Norway is making out like a bandit thanks to this war.


Say what you will about the shortcomings of Nordic socialism, but it is kind of telling you don’t read much about the yachts, cars, horses and mansions of Norwegian Sheiks and Oligarchs.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:12 pm to
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I would say the same thing if it was any other two countries.


It’s not any two countries.

One of the countries had been a threat to our national security, a rival and a thorn in our side for 75 years.

The other who took us, England and Russia at our word, and for global security they gave up their nukes. They relied on us for protecting their sovereignty.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
21027 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:15 pm to
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Zelensky cancels autumn conscription, postpones demobilization.

President Volodymyr Zelensky has canceled the draft to regular military service in Ukraine this autumn and postponed the demobilization scheduled for October-December, according to a decree published on Sept. 30.


While hundreds of thousands of Russians desperately flee the country to avoid being drafted, Ukraine has a waiting list of people who want to volunteer to serve. Oh, and Ukraine also doesn't have to recruit volunteers from its prisons. And Ukrainian soldiers actually get properly trained, instead of being sent to the front line immediately after being drafted.

These two systems lead to two very different types of fighters.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478758 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:15 pm to
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It's not that I don't respect Ukranian sovereignty,

You don't. At all.

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Ukranian sovereignty is more dubious than many countries.

Point proven.

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The fact of the matter is that there is no legitimate basis for us to be involved in this war, period.

Russia is on the brink of disrupting the entire international system and liberal world order.
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:19 pm to
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One of the countries had been a threat to our national security, a rival and a thorn in our side for 75 years.


OK boomer. The Soviet Union has been dead and gone for 30 years. The Russian Federation poses ZERO national security threat to the United States unless you consider maintaining the nations of Eastern Europe as our vassal states as vital to our national interest, which I for one do not.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
30653 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:20 pm to
It must gut Rybar to put that many blue arrows on a map with so few red ones.
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:23 pm to
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Russia is on the brink of disrupting the entire international system and liberal world order.



I don't disagree with you. However, my personal belief is that disruption of the "international system and liberal world order"--which is a euphemism for Global American Empire--is a good thing, for everyone, including the people of the United States.
Posted by tigeraddict
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:23 pm to
[quote]OK boomer. The Soviet Union has been dead and gone for 30 years. The Russian Federation poses ZERO national security threat to the United States unless you consider maintaining the nations of Eastern Europe as our vassal states as vital to our national interest, which I for one do not.

'Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it. - Churchill

Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:23 pm to
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Meanwhile, in Kherson Oblast, Russian Federation, AFU terrorists have been pushed back to pre-Kherson offensive frontlines.


Does he mean on one part of the front line or the entire front line? It wouldn't shock me if the Russians made a breakthrough somewhere but would be pretty shocked if the entire front were in retreat.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478758 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:24 pm to
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my personal belief is that disruption of the "international system and liberal world order"--which is a euphemism for Global American Empire--is a good thing, f

Then you're an idiot

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, including the people of the United States.

Then you're a fricking idiot
Posted by BrianKellyRespecter
Member since Aug 2022
534 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 2:28 pm to
Well then you think I'm an idiot. That's fine. But here's my question for you - Is it a moral position that Ukranians should fight and die in order to maintain the "international system and liberal world order"? Because that's why we're funding this war. You said it, not me. But I agree with you. It doesn't have jack shite to do with defending Ukrainian sovereignty or any such idealistic bullshite.
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