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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:20 pm to VolInBavaria
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:20 pm to VolInBavaria
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Market Rebellion @MarketRebels Obozrevatel is reporting that 5,000 soldiers in Belgorod, Russia have refused to go fight Ukraine
No chance. The more this stuff gets put out there the more I really question how well the Ukrainians are doing.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:21 pm to RummelTiger
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The internet.
Thanks, I figured that part out. I was looking for some specific sources.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:21 pm to DabosDynasty
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No chance. The more this stuff gets put out there the more I really question how well the Ukrainians are doing.
Hell, it is an almost certainty that the Russians are telling their people the same thing about Ukranian outfits.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:22 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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Thanks, I figured that part out. I was looking for some specific sources.
I gave you a decent one in the last page. Lee is good.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:22 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Twitter, really. Check out @RALee85. He does his own stuff as well as retweets.
Thanks!
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:22 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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What’s the best place to find videos of the fighting?
r/CombatFootage
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:24 pm to VolInBavaria
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r/CombatFootage
Has been litty like a frickin titty the last few days
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:29 pm to Jim Rockford
I can believe Putin thought it may be easier.
I don't believe that a country like Russia can't last longer than 10 days. That's bullshite
I don't believe that a country like Russia can't last longer than 10 days. That's bullshite
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:29 pm to RLDSC FAN
So I’ve done some research on why Putin has invaded Ukraine. Putin is not crazy, and it’s logical, from his perspective. This is his view:
First off, Putin believes that Russians and Ukrainians are one people with a shared history, culture, language, etc. He is fine with it being a separate country, such as how the U.S. and Canada are separate countries but have shared values.
According to Putin, the West has been trying to undermine Ukraine for years. In 2013, the leader of Ukraine declined to sign a free trade agreement with the EU and opted to continue to align with Russia, as they have historically. And in 2014, an anti-Russian coup overthrew the Ukrainian government and installed a pro-Western government.
Putin did not recognize this government as legitimate as the legitimate government was overthrown by a coup he believes was orchestrated by the West.
This new government recruited ultranationalists and neo-nazi militias to fight against those more closely associated with Russia in the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine.
Putin annexed Crimea to protect the large pro-Russian population from these militias.
Much of these militia groups had been absorbed by the regular Ukrainian army over time, and the government has been very appreciative of their efforts to do the dirty work fighting pro-Russian separatists. There is a real sympathy for these ultranationalist Neo-nazi groups in the Ukrainian interior ministry.
So when Putin claims one of his objectives is to “de-Nazify” the Ukrainian government, that’s what he’s talking about.
And now this new Ukrainian government is trying to join NATO. If they join NATO, Russia loses Ukraine forever.
It was now or never for Putin and Russia. He feels the legitimate Ukrainian government was overthrown by a Western coup and he cannot accept what he sees as an illegitimate government bringing NATO to his doorstep.
Putin believes he is liberating the Ukrainian people from anti-Russian, pro-Western aggressors who are the illegitimate leaders of Ukraine. He does not want to kill Ukrainian citizens. He does not want to destroy Ukraine. He wishes to oust the government to free Ukraine, in his view.
First off, Putin believes that Russians and Ukrainians are one people with a shared history, culture, language, etc. He is fine with it being a separate country, such as how the U.S. and Canada are separate countries but have shared values.
According to Putin, the West has been trying to undermine Ukraine for years. In 2013, the leader of Ukraine declined to sign a free trade agreement with the EU and opted to continue to align with Russia, as they have historically. And in 2014, an anti-Russian coup overthrew the Ukrainian government and installed a pro-Western government.
Putin did not recognize this government as legitimate as the legitimate government was overthrown by a coup he believes was orchestrated by the West.
This new government recruited ultranationalists and neo-nazi militias to fight against those more closely associated with Russia in the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine.
Putin annexed Crimea to protect the large pro-Russian population from these militias.
Much of these militia groups had been absorbed by the regular Ukrainian army over time, and the government has been very appreciative of their efforts to do the dirty work fighting pro-Russian separatists. There is a real sympathy for these ultranationalist Neo-nazi groups in the Ukrainian interior ministry.
So when Putin claims one of his objectives is to “de-Nazify” the Ukrainian government, that’s what he’s talking about.
And now this new Ukrainian government is trying to join NATO. If they join NATO, Russia loses Ukraine forever.
It was now or never for Putin and Russia. He feels the legitimate Ukrainian government was overthrown by a Western coup and he cannot accept what he sees as an illegitimate government bringing NATO to his doorstep.
Putin believes he is liberating the Ukrainian people from anti-Russian, pro-Western aggressors who are the illegitimate leaders of Ukraine. He does not want to kill Ukrainian citizens. He does not want to destroy Ukraine. He wishes to oust the government to free Ukraine, in his view.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:32 pm to Jim Rockford
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Interesting Twitter thread from the former Estonian defense minister LINK
The most interesting part is Russia being short on arms, particularly rockets. I'm not inclined to believe the complete picture he painted, but I can believe some of it. And being that I have little-to-no understanding as to the scope and scale of money these days, $20 billion a day for Russia to fight as they are doesn't sound entirely implausible.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:33 pm to beerJeep
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:34 pm to Jim Rockford
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Interesting Twitter thread from the former Estonian defense minister LINK
As good as that sounds, reads like a movie script. Wonder who’s the Ukrainian spy who is passing info that was in that secret lair
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:34 pm to VolInBavaria
Just heard some gunshots. Vehicles moving now.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:35 pm to OMLandshark
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I’m just the Soothsayer warning you of the Ides of March. Rohan is being invaded by Isengard now, but China is Mordor and Taiwan is Gondor, and the Great Eye’s gaze is fixed on Minas Tirith. If it falls, we’re done for an age of darkness and possible nuclear holocaust.
This shite is why nobody takes you seriously
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:35 pm to HailToTheChiz
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I don't believe that a country like Russia can't last longer than 10 days. That's bullshite
It's not so much if they have the ability to do it but rather does Putin have the willing support from various oligarchs to keep it up. He was already suffering from a popularity decline and if the rumors of him having health issues are true it's quite possible they will use this to remove him. At the end of the day the majority of the power players in Russia only care about money.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:36 pm to Ed Osteen
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This shite is why nobody takes you seriously
He's a soothsayer, a fortune teller, a sort of wizard, if you will, baw.
This post was edited on 2/26/22 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:37 pm to RLDSC FAN
I just saw that the US is sending Stingers and Germany is sending anti air and anti tank weapons.
Posted on 2/26/22 at 8:37 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:Congrats, you've joined the 4 other people who actually believe this bullsit and post about it incessantly
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