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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:50 pm to mmcgrath
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:50 pm to mmcgrath
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I find it amazing that the pro Russian side constantly pulls out obscure references without saying how they suddenly came across this information.
How did someone come across Russia taking Crimea that was international news
Or the thousands of articles that specifically state exactly what Russia was planning to do
From 8 years ago
8 years ago everyone on Earth knew exactly what the plan was.
8 fricking years ago.
And now we enter revisionist history and Russia was trying to take Kyiv and all of Ukraine.
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:50 pm to Caraway Rye
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Notice how it mentions taking the exact regions they are taking. Also not trying to take Kyiv.
Yes these territories are the real reason Russia invaded. Not NATO. Not the 2014 elections. Not bio labs. Not Biden corruption. Not fighting Nazis.
But they are on the path to losing these lands so they "annex" them (which nobody will respect) before they do.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:51 pm to MorgusTheMagnificent
quote:A couple of weeks ago you were claiming that Ukraine was in NATO already.
Who was it in here a couple weeks ago talking about this, and getting shouted down by the green haired freaks waiving their blue&yellow flags whilst circle-jerking about how smart they think they are??
Oh right, it was me
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:52 pm to Caraway Rye
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And now we enter revisionist history and Russia was trying to take Kyiv and all of Ukraine.
Oh Russia was 100% trying to take Kyiv in 2022, so they could get the territories they want under more legal means.
Russia is getting its arse kicked and is about to lose control in these areas, so they're panicking and "annexed" them, so they can try to justify full mobilization once Ukraine "invades Russia".
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:54 pm to mmcgrath
Wrong… I was stating that the ground work & path to membership were already there. Formal admittance was just the next step
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:55 pm to Caraway Rye
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They wanted the mostly russian portions of Ukraine in the far east
Which they are going to get
Even if this were their only goal, it wasn’t, they did a piss poor job of it declaring it as they’re actively losing territory in those regions. If that was truly their only goal, they’d have done so after their last real advancement that took territories west of Lyman.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:56 pm to Caraway Rye
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And now we enter revisionist history and Russia was trying to take Kyiv and all of Ukraine.
Are you denying that Russia tried to take Kyiv or are you simply saying they wasted some of their best troops and equipment in a feint to take Kyiv? If the latter, what was the purpose of that feint? What did Russia gain militarily by the feint?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:59 pm to DabosDynasty
Posted on 9/30/22 at 3:59 pm to Caraway Rye
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And now we enter revisionist history and Russia was trying to take Kyiv and all of Ukraine.
And next you will tell us how Hitler really didn’t want Stalingrad, Ludendorff didn’t want Paris and Napoleon really didn’t want Moscow.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:01 pm to mmcgrath
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I find it amazing that the pro Russian side constantly pulls out obscure references without saying how they suddenly came across this information.
Or how they then ignore how it also undermines the point they are trying to make
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Notice how it mentions taking the exact regions they are taking. Also not trying to take Kyiv.
And then says
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Russia’s preferred scenario is federalization (or even a confederated republic), which would grant Ukraine’s regions—especially those dominated by Russian-speaking Ukrainians and ethnic Russians—far-reaching political and economic autonomy.
Yep. Totally not trying to take over all of Ukraine
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:03 pm to doubleb
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And next you will tell us how Hitler really didn’t want Stalingrad, Ludendorff didn’t want Paris and Napoleon really didn’t want Moscow.
Hitler wanted worldwide domination of German Aryans
We know this because he said this
He wanted everything
We also know that Russia wanted to take the predominately Russian portions of Ukraine to throw a wrench in Ukraines government in Kyiv.
Because they said this.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:04 pm to Caraway Rye
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Because they said this.
But Nazis? And biolabs? They said they went there for that too, or did you forget?
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:05 pm to StormyMcMan
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to force Kyiv to adopt an entirely new model of governance
So not taking over Kyiv
Making them adopt an entirely new model of governance
Not make it Russia
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:05 pm to Caraway Rye
Putin wanted to take Kyiv to avoid exactly what is happening now. If Kyiv fell, there is no Western influx of weapons and support. C'mon dude.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:05 pm to Caraway Rye
So by this logic, if 69% of the Mexicans in New Mexico say they are unhappy with the US Government, it's ok for Mexico to invade?
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:07 pm to Chromdome35
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So by this logic, if 69% of the Mexicans in New Mexico say they are unhappy with the US Government, it's ok for Mexico to invade?
Canada needs to come take annex us fast!!!
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:08 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Putin wanted to take Kyiv to avoid exactly what is happening now. If Kyiv fell, there is no Western influx of weapons and support. C'mon dude.
Kyiv isnt majority Russian
They were never going to annex Kyiv
When someone tells you what they are going to do. Sometimes over 8 years maybe you should ponder if they are going to do exactly what they said.
At least Trump made them wait.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:09 pm to Caraway Rye
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Kyiv isnt majority Russian
So?
quote:
They were never going to annex Kyiv
Because they got their arse kicked.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:10 pm to Caraway Rye
You could find data that looks very similar within the US on its govt as we speak. Maybe someone should call Mexico and ask them to invade and take back the southwest. Let’s really see if Truss is up to the task in the UK and see if she’ll come take back the southern colonies.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:12 pm to Caraway Rye
quote:First of all, the author of that article isn't Putin. Secondly, the article talks how they want to influence those areas to pressure Kiev, not take them over and make them Russian territories. What Putin wanted was to influence Ukraine so that he could install another puppet. That clearly wasn't working.
Kyiv isnt majority Russian
They were never going to annex Kyiv
When someone tells you what they are going to do. Sometimes over 8 years maybe you should ponder if they are going to do exactly what they said.
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