re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Nice profile piece on Valeriy Zaluzhny, Ukraine's top military officer.

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When the invasion started on the morning of Feb. 24, the general had two strategic goals for Ukraine’s defense. “We could not allow Kyiv to fall,” he said. “And, on all the other vectors, we had to spill their blood, even if in some places it would require losing territory.” The aim, in other words, was to allow the Russians to advance and then destroy their columns in the front and supply lines in the rear. By the sixth day of the invasion, he concluded it was working. The Russians had failed to take airports around Kyiv and had advanced deep enough to begin straining supply lines, leaving them exposed.

Milley, Zaluzhny’s U.S. counterpart, was in some ways astounded when he saw the Ukrainians holding out. He asked Zaluzhny whether he planned to evacuate to safer ground. “I told him, ‘I don’t understand you,’” Zaluzhny says. “For me the war started in 2014 … I didn’t run away then, and I’m not going to run now.”

He too was surprised by Russia’s blunders. When the enemy faced heavy resistance or lost the ability to resupply, they did not retreat or shift to a different approach. “They just herded their soldiers into the slaughter,” Zaluzhny said. “They chose the scenario that suited me best of all.”

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Inside the Ukrainian Counterstrike That Turned the Tide of the War

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We should have stayed out of World War I. Sorry, not everything is directly comparable to 1939.

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Brother, earlier in this thread, you straight up compared Ukrainian propaganda to Goebbels. For once in your life, have some self-awareness.

CitizenK, help a neophyte out here. If Nordstream 2's use was functionally cancelled, why is there that much gas leaking from it?

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Because Goebbels was the most famous propagandist who ever lived and it’s as simple as that.

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Please god think about what you are saying. For once, think things through. Even if he is the most 'famous' (a claim which I'm skeptical of because I'm absolutely sure you have no background in making such a claim), the use of hyperbole in that context was extremely stupid, as is your justification.

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I understand why Ukraine is doing propaganda, but due to it I don’t believe almost anything until I’ve heard it from multiple different sources from this war.

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Are you telling me that before the propaganda, you were just using a singular source? Brother, your media literacy is so poor that it is hard to believe you are an adult. You realize that seeking out multiple sources from multiple perspectives is the standard, right? My god the more you talk the worse you look.

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Wish you put the maps in context.

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I'm sorry. They aren't my maps, and I'm not particularly good at manipulating them. Look at the maps from @War_Mapper yesterday, and hopefully, it'll make more sense.

Here's Ukraine. Now look at the northeast of this map:




and you can see the area that we're talking about. This was the "Kharkiv offensive," because the territory was in Kharkiv Oblast, but now it's better just to call it the "northern offensive," as it's pushing into northern Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts.

I've marked off in green what Ukraine is trying to do: surround Russian forces in those areas.

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No if we had just let the peace deal go through that would have just solved all things

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Literally the only thing I have found on this was that the "West" would negotiate with Ukraine but not Russia, but Russia wouldn't negotiate with Ukraine without the "West" present. That's just political egos playing out right wrong or indifferent.

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Russia conquering Ukraine would have simplified things right?

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this is all the wests fault because they arent just giving russia what it wants

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We should have stayed out of World War I. Sorry, not everything is directly comparable to 1939.

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No, we should have been more forceful at the peace talks and not let the old European guard screw things up.