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Posted on 9/17/22 at 11:45 pm to
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 9/17/22 at 11:45 pm to
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Is Russian forces fighting each other in Kherson tonight? Nobody knows what’s going on. Lots of gunfire.


Twit vid of some of the chaos

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This post was edited on 9/17/22 at 11:49 pm
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 5:48 am to
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Is Russian forces fighting each other in Kherson tonight? Nobody knows what’s going on. Lots of gunfire.




Partisans. It's what you do before the final assault. You unleash the partisans to create chaos.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:32 am to
City looks to be in pretty good shape. Would be a shame for them to get into an urban assault and destroy the city.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 6:57 am to
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British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 18 September 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

Russia has launched several thousand long-range missiles against Ukraine since 24 February 2022. However, in the last seven days, Russia has increased its targeting of civilian infrastructure even where it probably perceives no immediate military effect.

This category of mission has included strikes against the electricity grid, and a dam on the Inhulets River at Kryvyi Rih.

As it faces setbacks on the front lines, Russia has likely extended the locations it is prepared to strike in an attempt to directly undermine the morale of the Ukrainian people and government.
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:22 am to
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Russian TV is working hard on this by trying to convince the public they are actually fighting NATO forces... whole divisions...


The end of that video is hilarious.

Person 1: It's not ok that we retreated from Ukrainians because they are small and weak. But if we are retreating from African Americans it's ok

Host: are you being sarcastic? I don't get your sarcasm

Person 1: nope
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:26 am to
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Many in the German establishment, he said, resented US dominance in energy matters and disliked “this idea of a global fungible market in oil that’s traded in dollars and protected by the US navy”. That resentment, he said, was one of the reasons why Germany kept out of the US war in Iraq in 2003. And it was why it suited Germany to have direct access to Russian oil and gas.
This attitude is not from the former West Germans, this is all Angela Merkel.
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Oh the irony.
Beat me to it.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 7:56 am to
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[Berlin’s U-turn on energy policy with Moscow after invasion of Ukraine] is all a far cry from Sechin’s press conference in 2017, which marked the opening of Rosneft Deutschland’s new Berlin office. It was a time when German-Russian relations were on an even keel and the Kremlin was still seen by many in Germany as a reliable partner.

The optimists were personified by Michael Harms, head of the Ost-Ausschuss, the principal lobby for German investors in Russia. Appearing next to Sechin, one of President Vladimir Putin’s closest confidants, he said Rosneft’s new Berlin representation was “proof of Russia’s unwavering commitment to the European market”.
So how does lobbying group Ost-Ausschuss convince German/Euro investors to place their money into the warm embrace of a person whose past includes years as a KGB arms dealer in East Africa? That's a risk rating slightly higher than a Nigerian casino.

I'm thinking Angela gave German government guarantees to all investors with Rosneft et al. That's the only thing that would work. Altruism, especially involving financial deals with Russians, does not have a place in German corporate investment policy. They would have to have guarantees.

So that means that just after Scholz put the German taxpayer on the hook for €300 million courtesy of Warburg Bank, they will now have to bend over again for the Ost-Ausschuss/Rosneft investors. Which will be far more than €300m.

Yet somehow I feel no pity for German taxpayers. If you elect politicians like Merkel and Scholz, you can't complain when you have to pay the consequences.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:02 am to
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This attitude is not from the former West Germans, this is all Angela Merkel.


100% the East German communist.


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Yet somehow I feel no pity for German taxpayers. If you elect politicians like Merkel and Scholz, you can't complain when you have to pay the consequences.


Truth.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 8:06 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:31 am to
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I'm thinking Angela gave German government guarantees to all investors with Rosneft et al.


That's possible, but the person who really started Germany's lean towards Russia was Gerhard Schröder. He also served on Rosneft's board starting in 2017. The U-turn in German energy policy really started under him.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:32 am to
WarMonitor????
@WarMonitor3
UPDATE:
Local sources are indicating that recent footage from central Kherson is fabricated.

I cannot be completely sure but I would say this is a correct assessment.

LINK


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It is said the reason these videos were carried out was to calm local collaborators and give off the impression that partisan groups are being dealt with.

Again plausible explanation.

This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 9:34 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:34 am to
The Russians Spent Months Forming A New Army Corps. It Lasted Days in Ukraine

The Kremlin this summer scrambled to form a new army corps, seeking replacements for 80,000 troops injured or killed in Ukraine and 5,000 wrecked or captured vehicles.

The 3rd Army Corps on paper is a powerful force, with several brigades encompassing 10,000 troops in a dozen or more battalions equipped with hundreds of T-80 and T-90 tanks and other vehicles.

But it’s a hollow formation, staffed by old, unfit volunteers including drug and alcohol addicts. And when the 3rd AC’s vanguard rushed to northeastern Ukraine’s Kharkiv Oblast last week in a desperate bid to block a Ukrainian counteroffensive, the corps just ... melted away.

The 3rd AC, based in Mulino, 200 miles east of Moscow, represents the Kremlin’s best effort to make good its deepening losses after 200 days of fighting in Ukraine. That the 3rd AC failed to make any difference in Ukraine is very bad news for the Russian war effort. It’s not going to get easier for the Russian army to stand up additional formations.

Forbes
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:37 am to
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New Russian 3rd Army Corps has already sustained considerable losses.


LINK


Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:42 am to
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Ukrainian SOF are doing superhuman things in this war.

The stories I have been told are truly stuff straight out of the movies.


There is a lot that they can do deep in occupied territory. I well remember a coworker at Dow Taft, who commanded a satellite intel bunker during Desert Shield/Desert Storm. Per him SOF units would request photos of an area then the next night return with some Iraqi commander. All branches were doing it. However the SAS went deeper into Iraq and brought be the biggest prizes. Per him, they had far larger balls than Delta, Green Beret, Seals, etc...

Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37606 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:58 am to
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I'm thinking Angela gave German government guarantees to all investors with Rosneft et al.


That's possible, but the person who really started Germany's lean towards Russia was Gerhard Schröder. He also served on Rosneft's board starting in 2017. The U-turn in German energy policy really started under him


There's been a lot of struggling with energy choices over the last 11 years.

After the Fukushima nuclear scare the decision was made to significantly reduce their use of nuclear baselode. Sounds great but their eco friendly solar and wind solutions provide intermittent power, not baselode. And Germany is just not one of the easiest places to get most of your energy from the wind and sun.

Anyway political decisions like that are hard to immediately reverse. What they should do is bring back the nuclear (since they care about carbon emissions) and buy LNG from Norway, Great Britain, Ukraine or Russia (but not be dependent on just one).

If they restarted or constructed more nuclear they can get closer to their carbon goals and have energy security. We'll see if they are willing to dispense with the bullshite and do it - or if they are still committed to lollipop and unicorn rhetoric while their policies force them to burn coal.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:01 am to
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As it faces setbacks on the front lines, Russia has likely extended the locations it is prepared to strike in an attempt to directly undermine the morale of the Ukrainian people and government.


Poor timing.

It would be like the Oklahoma coach in 2019 down 49-14 at half pulling out a trick play. Too little too late to boost morale. Ukraine is kicking butt right now.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16152 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:33 am to
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buy LNG from Norway, Great Britain, Ukraine or Russia


There already is a pipeline from Norway. Great Britain is an importer of natural gas via pipeline from Norway and LNG from elsewhere. Ukraine gets most of its natural gas via the Brotherhood Pipeline which passes through it from Russia enroute to a hub in Austria.

The big issue caused by 2014 is the cancellation of projects to develop tight shale natural gas fields (which also contain oil) in Eastern, Western and Southern Ukraine. Tight shale fields which produce both oil and gas will also produce NGL's providing an inexpensive feedstock for a petrochemical industry. Olefins (ethylene) crackers to make plastics, waxes, Guerbet alcohols, anti-freeze, and a LOT more things.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:12 am to
From The Kyiv Independent...

Southern Command: Russian forces stage shooting in Kherson to accuse Ukraine of urban warfare.

Ukraine's military Southern Operational Command said that the video published online in which Russian troops are shooting on the streets of Russian-occupied Kherson is part of a false flag plot to frame Ukrainian troops and allege that Kyiv is endangering civilians. Ukraine launched a counteroffensive in Kherson Oblast on Aug. 29.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5747 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:21 am to
The Armed Forces of Ukraine cross the Oskil river and took its left bank under control – StratCom
Sunday, 18 September 2022, 18:22

Since Saturday, the Ukrainian crossed the Oskil river in the Kharkiv region and now control not only the right but also the left bank of the river.

Source: Centre of Strategic Communications of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Telegram

Quote: "The Armed Forces of Ukraine crossed the Oskil river.

Since yesterday, Ukraine controls the left bank as well."

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 3:57 pm to
Spiderman tears down Russian billboard in Vovchansk

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Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:20 pm to
Interesting details from this Reuters story on Gen. Milley's visit to US troops in Poland:

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Milley was also briefed on critical support being provided by U.S. forces at the base to Ukraine, including remote maintenance assistance via secure teleconferencing for the billions of dollars in U.S.-provided weaponry.

Some members of a roughly 50-member repair team showed reporters images of damaged U.S.-provided arms, including M777 howitzers, that in the West would have long been considered beyond the scope of repair. Not in Ukraine.

"They're not willing to scrap it," one soldier said, recalling artillery with shrapnel damage and sometimes completely worn out from firing round after round against Russian troops.

But Ukrainians are managing to bring these weapons back into battle, thanks to guidance from U.S. forces and manufacturing prowess by Kyiv allowing it to reverse-engineer spare parts.

Since the program began in June, more than a dozen teleconference channels have been set up with over 100 Ukrainian contacts. But priority support is being given to the M777s and to the high mobility artillery rocket systems (HIMARS), which have been central to Ukraine's counter-offensive nearly seven months since Russian forces invaded.

"Combat power for Ukraine is staying at the level it is because of America's investment in the sustainment," the soldier said.
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