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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:36 pm to
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This is from the Wartranslated channel, Supposedly this is a call between a Russian Soldier and his Wife during the Kharkiv offensive. He's wounded and you can tell he is in pain...I hope he's still alive.


Well if the soldier was found by Ukrainian troops then there is a good chance that he is still alive. The USA and NATO have spent the last 8 years training Ukrainian medics, nurses, surgeons, and physicians. The Ukrainians doctors also have 8 years of battlefield experience. Now NATO military doctors who were not deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan are being sent to Ukraine not to train the Ukrainian doctors but to be trained by them.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45556 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:39 pm to
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Where were all the Ukrai e supporters in 2014 when Obama led them to slaughter



I was here. I randomly posted in the Maiden thread as well as the threads regarding the earlier stages of the war. I started medical school in 2014 so I really did not have time to follow it then.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:44 pm to
We gave Russia 8 years to build their piggy bank for war and to prepare. We are just lucky that they are not competent
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45556 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:45 pm to
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Ukraine’s General Staff of the Armed Forces said on Sept. 12. that Russia’s military command has suspended sending new units to Ukraine, and that a large number of volunteers are also refusing to fight in Russia’s army
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I'm relatively new to the military world, but does refusing to fight fall under the victoriously withdrawing and orderly regrouping categories?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 7:56 pm to
The Ukrainians not being ready in 2014 is not why Obama didn't send anything. Even then Ukraine held their own in the Donbass region and did pretty good in spite of the circumstances. He could have sent defensive weapons for the Donbass.
Obama wanted his Iran deal back then and John Kerry convinced Obama that he would need the Russians to get it. Remember the Russians were at the table. Obama didn't want to alienate the Russians so he caved to Kerry to get the deal.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:06 pm to
NVM turned out to be fake news.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 9:12 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45556 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:10 pm to
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The Ukrainians not being ready in 2014 is not why Obama didn't send anything.


Not ready is an understatement. The Ukrainians did not even have 100 rounds per AK74 at their bases in Crimea and they did not have enough AKs for the troops they had there. Of course, Victor Yanakovich had a lot to do with that. He transferred a lot of the weapons from the Ukrainian bases in Crimea to the Russian bases in Crimea and told the soldiers there that they were making room for new rifles to that would soon be supplied by Russia.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:14 pm to
So, it is possible that Crimea has warning of an airborne attack by the u's if this is correct?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45556 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:16 pm to
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The Rosgvardia is often referred to as Putin's "private army" and has mostly been used to violently suppress peaceful anti-regime demonstrations.

Reports have emerged that up to seven thousand Chechens have been drafted into the National Guard's ranks.

The deployment has led to speculation that the Russian despot fears growing public unrest and a possible coup attempt from his elites.

The news site Kavkaz Center tweeted: "Interesting info from Chechnya.
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I highly doubt that there will be a coup, but it is interesting that ole Putain is feeling nervous enough to summon his personal army to Moscow.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15735 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:27 pm to
Yes and no. Russia took a bigtime hit in 2020 with loss of their cash cow export, crude oil. Their refined products sector took a big hit too, from which it has never fully recovered.

It was actually the left backed by Russia which tried to stop hydraulic fracturing of tight shale formations for oil and natural gas. They were unsuccessful other than stopping a pipeline to New England through the state of New York, keeping New England dependent on LNG from Russia.

Russia was also behind the left in the campaign to stop production of bitumen and pipelines to the USA. They were successful in stopping Keystone XL which just in one refinery in Port Arthur, one in Houston 75% would have been used. The rest would go to other refineries configured for heavy crude. Not a single drop would be exported, in fact more is needed of heavy crude since we don't have any outside of a few wells in Alabama and Mississippi, east of the Rockies.

Now tell me again about who sides with Russia, you idiot.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:33 pm to
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@NeilPHauer Armenia will be formally appealing to the CSTO, UN Security Council, and its bilateral defence treaty with Russia, PM Nikol Pashinyan says, following calls with Putin and Macron as Azerbaijani assault continues


Azerbaijan tonight has struck locations within Armenia (not just Nagorno-Karabakh) and fighting is still ongoing. I know Armenia doesn't have any where else to turn but after seeing Russia's performance in Ukraine they may be the last party I'd ask for military assistance.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:36 pm to
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Refer to my comment when the democrats start killing Christians, they would include Catholics




You do realize that the large majority of Democrats are also Christians don't you?
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 8:38 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98033 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:50 pm to
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Looks like the Ukrainian spetznaz just delivered some more hurt to the Ruskies.




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Another example, this video is making the rounds purportedly showing explosions in Taganrog, Russia, but actually shows the Aug. 9 explosions at the Saky airbase in Novofedorivka, Russian-occupied Crimea.



This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45556 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:11 pm to
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Looks like the Ukrainian spetznaz just delivered some more hurt to the Ruskies.



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Another example, this video is making the rounds purportedly showing explosions in Taganrog, Russia, but actually shows the Aug. 9 explosions at the Saky airbase in Novofedorivka, Russian-occupied Crimea.


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This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 9:15 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:11 pm to
Most people would think taking out an opponent’s fighters would be the primary goal but they don’t realize you’d be doing so much more damage taking out it’s AWACS fleet. This is supposedly in Crimea but in the chance it’s authentic it would be a tier 1 target and one that you would think would be heavily defended. Then again, this is the Russians we are talking about, nothing shocks me with them.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45556 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:13 pm to
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Most people would think taking out an opponent’s fighters would be the primary goal but they don’t realize you’d be doing so much more damage taking out it’s AWACS fleet. This is supposedly in Crimea but in the chance it’s authentic it would be a tier 1 target and one that you would think would be heavily defended. Then again, this is the Russians we are talking about, nothing shocks me with them.



It turned out to be fake news. However, you are correct that taking out Russia's AWACs fleet would do more damage than taking out some fighters.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8605 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:20 pm to
AWACS has changed the way warfare is conducted. And I always respected the guys that flew them because they knew in combat they would be the first target followed closely by air tankers. Being able to stay further away from the front is their only defense.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 9:21 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24872 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:21 pm to
Apology to this board, thought I was on political board, that's what I get for reading the comments. I'm pretty certain most conservative Christians consider catholics "Christian" in name only. Most dems probably realize this also and the catholics would be that last christian group to go. Future responses from me on this will be on political board.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:28 pm to
Isw update

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Ukraine’s southern counteroffensive is continuing to have significant impacts on Russian morale and military capabilities in southern Ukraine.


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The success of recent Ukrainian counteroffensive operations may be impacting the will or ability of the Russian military command to use newly formed volunteer units in Ukraine in a timely fashion.


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Key Takeaways

Ukrainian forces are continuing to make impactful gains in Kherson Oblast and are steadily degrading the morale and combat capabilities of Russian forces in this area.

The Russian military command may be suspending the deployment of newly formed units to Ukraine due to recent Russian losses and overall degraded morale.

Russian forces are failing to reinforce the new frontline following Ukrainian gains in eastern Kharkiv Oblast and are actively fleeing the area or redeploying to other axes.

Ukrainian forces continued targeting Russian military assets and positions in Kherson Oblast, likely steadily degrading them.

The Ukrainian recapture of Izyum has likely degraded Russian forces’ ability to conduct artillery strikes along the Izyum-Slovyansk highway.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) announced the restoration of the second reserve power transmission line to the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP).

Ukraine’s sweeping counteroffensive is damaging Russian administrative capabilities and driving Russian departures from occupied parts of Ukraine far behind the line of contact.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1014 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:28 pm to
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I'm pretty certain most conservative Christians consider catholics "Christian" in name only.

I'm pretty certain you are a moron.
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