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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:18 am to DarthRebel
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:18 am to DarthRebel
Ukraine has been quite conservative in its claims of advances for MONTHS. This as opposed to Russia's wildly inaccurate claims
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:28 am to crazy4lsu
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Russia doesn't have as robust infrastructure to transport gas to India and China
It has NO infrastructure via pipeline to India. it has two small LNG terminals. How is it going to get anything to India via pipeline over the Himalayas or through Afghanistan and Pakistan?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:40 am to CitizenK
Ukrainian MOD getting salty (and threatening to finally go after the Kerch bridge?)
LINK
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The weather forecast says it is going to be very hot in Crimea.
It's time for the rus invaders to prepare for a swim. It takes a lot of strength to swim to Sochi or Yeysk.
BTW the Guinness Book of World Records may include a new record for the longest open water swim.
LINK
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:13 am to TigerDoc
Taking out the Kerch is no doubt important but it’s still roughly 250 miles away. No doubt the Ukrainians have a limited stock of weapons that can reach that distance but I do imagine it is very limited. The Kerch bridge’s time will come but right now the more important objective is driving the Russians out of Kherson before the rains come and limit how their armor and other heavy weapons can maneuver. This will be a drawback on the HIMARS as it’s a wheeled vehicle that will almost assuredly only able to operate on roadways and not in fields where it risks getting stuck and is a sitting duck. The Russians as stupid as they are have to realize this too. It’s all about getting the Russians driven back to the east of the river before the rains and then winter come and finding good solid ground to set artillery up to shell them across the river.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:21 am to CitizenK
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It has NO infrastructure via pipeline to India. it has two small LNG terminals. How is it going to get anything to India via pipeline over the Himalayas or through Afghanistan and Pakistan?
Or through Kazakhstan or any other Central Asian country. They've really hemmed themselves in through their foreign policy. There's a lesson here for other nations who are aggressive in their FP, such as Iran, Israel and the KSA, among other MENA countries. The long-term benefit of aggressive actions is rarely worth the long-term cost.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:37 am to crazy4lsu
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They've really hemmed themselves in through their foreign policy. There's a lesson here for other nations who are aggressive in their FP, such as Iran, Israel and the KSA, among other MENA countries. The long-term benefit of aggressive actions is rarely worth the long-term cost.
Yeah they have. Putin had to believe the west/Eu would cave and looking back I see why he believed that. He took Crimea and got a slap on the wrist. Biden appeared weak.
The loss is staggering, loss of European market share for oil and NG, no realistic way to overcome the NG loss of revenue, his military has been rendered and foreign investment in Russia went from somewhat robust to zero in one day.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:44 am to Lakeboy7
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The loss is staggering, loss of European market share for oil and NG, no realistic way to overcome the NG loss of revenue, his military has been rendered and foreign investment in Russia went from somewhat robust to zero in one day.
Don't forget though that according to some in this thread Russia has taken exactly what they wanted in resource-laden the East...even though most of the mineral resources are in areas they haven't captured yet.
We really need Stidham or someone to explain how Russia has Ukraine right where they want them and everything is going according to plan A, B, C, D.
Is anything in Ukraine currently progressing in Russia's favor?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:47 am to RLDSC FAN
Ukraine Army hampers Russia’s attempt to set up river crossing near ??Hola Prystan
07.09.2022 17:00
In the southern operational zone, the Armed Forces of Ukraine liquidated another 30 Russian soldiers, destroying a barge carrying military equipment and personnel across the river near Hola Prystan, Kherson region.
That’s according to Operational Command South, Ukrinform reports.
"Our missile and artillery units inflicted fire damage to the enemy manpower, weapons and military equipment clusters, as well as their control points. As the enemy tried to set up an alternative river crossing in the area of ??Hola Prystan, a barge carrying a group of invaders and a batch of military equipment was destroyed. Fire control of the Kakhovka Bridge does not allow the enemy to carry out repair works," the statement reads.
UKRINFORM
07.09.2022 17:00
In the southern operational zone, the Armed Forces of Ukraine liquidated another 30 Russian soldiers, destroying a barge carrying military equipment and personnel across the river near Hola Prystan, Kherson region.
That’s according to Operational Command South, Ukrinform reports.
"Our missile and artillery units inflicted fire damage to the enemy manpower, weapons and military equipment clusters, as well as their control points. As the enemy tried to set up an alternative river crossing in the area of ??Hola Prystan, a barge carrying a group of invaders and a batch of military equipment was destroyed. Fire control of the Kakhovka Bridge does not allow the enemy to carry out repair works," the statement reads.
UKRINFORM
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:48 am to Chromdome35
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Is anything in Ukraine currently progressing in Russia's favor?
Well buying munitions from N Korea and Iran speaks volumes.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:10 pm to crazy4lsu
Still not going over that mountain range from Kazakhstan
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:25 pm to CitizenK
https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1567222291674578945
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Those drones Iran sold us are so great we've been unable to spot Ukraine's attack near Kharkiv.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:31 pm to Chromdome35
Another 2 Su-25 ground attack aircraft and 1 Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopter downed today. That’s 3 Su-25 and 2 Ka-52 in the last 48 hours. I wouldn’t want to be a Russian pilot right now, they are taking a beating. Even flying treetop level and pitching up to throw their munitions as to stay out of the way of Ukrainian MANPADS isn’t working.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:48 pm to Chromdome35
Even though this is meant to be humorous, it might turn out to be true.
https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1567407530321534976
https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1567407530321534976
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Day 196 of my 3 day war. Once I run out of North Korean ammo my soldiers will work in pairs. One will throw rocks & other will shout "BANG".
I remain a master strategist.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:52 pm to Chromdome35
A good map showing a larger area around the Kharkiv offensive.
You can see the strategic importance of Kupyansk to Russia's logistics.
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1567570779822342145
According to Google Earth, Ukraine is just over 40KM from Kapyansk. Almost within standard artillery range.
You can see the strategic importance of Kupyansk to Russia's logistics.
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1567570779822342145
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I made this map to show the current logistics situation for the Russians. UA seems to be heading straight for Kup'yans'k which is an important logistics hub for RuAF. If UA can get Kup'yans'k in artillery range, RU will have serious problems on the Izium front.
According to Google Earth, Ukraine is just over 40KM from Kapyansk. Almost within standard artillery range.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:03 pm to Chromdome35
Video of Russian troops coming under attack as they cross a pontoon bridge on the Dnipro river.
https://mobile.twitter.com/tinso_ww/status/1567571695535366145
A few comments down there is an aftermath video that I won't post.
https://mobile.twitter.com/tinso_ww/status/1567571695535366145
A few comments down there is an aftermath video that I won't post.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:12 pm to Chromdome35
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Illia Ponomarenko ???? @IAPonomarenko · 3h Something incredible is happening in Kharkiv Oblast. Yeah, we somewhat underestimated the Ukrainian military’s offensive capability and reserves in that sector.
The town of Balakliia seems to be the pivot point for a number of options for the UA now. If they can push straight through to Izium, then great. But the recent fall of Volokhiv Yar and now Shevchenkove indicates a different strategy.
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I am not very good at graphics, but I tried to draw up an explainer for the Ukrainian Kupiansk Offensive: Redish = the territory occupied by russia • yesterday Ukrainian troops liberated Balakliia (Blue 1) • during the night Ukrainian troops moved to Volokhiv Yar (Blue 2)
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• currently Ukrainian troops are advancing to Shevchenkove (Blue 3) Once Ukrainian troops have firmly established themselves in these three settlements, the russian forces in the black hatched area must retreat North or will be crushed by Ukrainian forces.
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Thomas C. Theiner @noclador AND Ukrainian troops have already reached Shevchenkove.
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Once Ukrainian troops have firmly established themselves in these three settlements, the russian forces in the black hatched area must retreat North or will be crushed by Ukrainian forces. Once the black hatched area is cleared Ukraine can move its M777 up and take the rail and road junctions, and russian supply depots in Kupiansk under fire. The outer yellow rings show the range of M982 Excalibur rounds for precision strikes and the inner yellow rings show the range of unguided M795 155 mm projectiles.
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With Kupiansk (upper red circle) under artillery fire, the russian supply line to its forces around Izyum (lower red circle) becomes unusable. If Ukraine then uses M777 fired Excalibur projectiles and M142 HIMARS fired M31A1 GMLRS rockets to take out the bridges over the Oskil river (the four purple pentagons) and whatever pontoon bridges the russians try to build, then the russian forces West of the Oskil river are trapped, just like the russian forces in Kherson.
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This will give Ukraine two options how to finish the russians:
• either advance and take Kupiansk (Green 4) and then battle the trapped russians into surrender or
• leave an escape route for the russians between Shevchenkove and Kupiansk and then hammer them with artillery, TB2 drones, and rocket artillery when they flee North. The first option guarantees annihilation for 10,000+ russians, but will also cause many Ukrainian casualties, while the second will brutally decimate the fleeing russians, with minimal Ukrainian losses.
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No matter what options the Ukrainians choose, the russian forces West of the Oskil are doomed, as putin doesn't have 5-6,000 fresh troops for a counter attack. This offensive (like the Kherson Offensive) makes excellent use of rivers, and while the Kherson Offensive ensures that russia can never launch an attack on Mykolaiv, the Kupiansk Offensive ensures that russia can never launch an attack on Sloviansk. And with no chance to take Sloviansk, russia has also lost the Battle of Donbas. putin is a moron, and now all can finally see that.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:31 pm to WeeWee
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If these rumors are true it is big. Not only does it show that the Ukrainians can sustain 2 offensive movements at once
You have to wonder if the news cycle from a week ago about the US war gaming with Ukraine and pushing Ukraine to execute a more limited offensive was itself a head fake.
I imagine there was quite a lot of “intercepted” intelligence in the run up to this hinting that any and all offensive efforts need to be focused solely on Kherson.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 2:12 pm to Chromdome35
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Video of Russian troops coming under attack as they cross a pontoon bridge on the Dnipro river.
LINK
A few comments down there is an aftermath video that I won't post.
Holy frick...
Wait, you can't believe anything on twitter. Probably just Ukrainian crisis actors.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 2:34 pm to ned nederlander
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You have to wonder if the news cycle from a week ago about the US war gaming with Ukraine and pushing Ukraine to execute a more limited offensive was itself a head fake.
It was, and the Russians pulled units out of all the areas currently getting pushed.
The US has been wargaming since this thing started. It takes a ton of staff work but since we arent actively engaged we have all sorts of staff types available for this.
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