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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/6/22 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 6:51 pm to
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Are you still a big Zelensky supporter?


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How is asking a simple question shite slinging?


Are you for real or do we need to actually explain it to you? Again.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42607 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:08 pm to
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What's your point?


They are mad that Russia is losing ground.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5895 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:13 pm to
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We are not wishing death upon others


To be fair, I maybe, probably, almost definitely, have wished death upon Russian soldiers and their collaborators in this thread. I need them out of Ukraine so I can start laundering again.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97957 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:18 pm to
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Don’t know what to tell you, I’m not answering your dumbass baited question


I wouldnt want to be on record admitting it either but its obviously a yes

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37518 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:33 pm to
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They are mad that Russia is losing ground.



Did this discussion about Zelensky (Ukraine) support really get presented without the qualifier of compared to Putin (Russia)?

That seems too stupid to be accidental.

Even people who think Ukraine is very corrupt have to think Russia is more untrustworthy (especially dangerous to their neighbors). The Ukrainians don't have a recent history of invading Russia (or Georgia, or Chechnya).

That's not worth responding to
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
6068 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 7:57 pm to
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No one in this thread that I have seen in the last 1000 pages is pimping Zelensky.


This point has been made a dozen times, there is never an answer and they'll continue regurgitate the same bs. These aren't critical thinkers.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30448 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 8:32 pm to
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Ukraine Military Offensives:


The funny thing is Leroy Jenkins accurately describes much of the Russian's strategy but is the exact opposite of how the Ukrainians have managed their offensive strikes.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 10:59 pm to
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That you are all hypocrites


In what way are we all hypocrites?

In all honesty, everyone is a hypocrite about something(s). I'm sure you have something you are a hypocrite about, thing is...I don't care. You live your life, I'll live mine, I promise I won't spend a second of mine worrying about what you're a hypocrite about.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:07 pm to
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Uhh oh… another European energy company is about to go under!


The EU is meeting on Friday and they are expecting to cap gas prices, decouple the price of electricity from the price of natural gas, and have the governments pick up the tab. It’s not a great strategy in my mind but since most European energy companies are state owned they can easily be subsidized and as Russia has proven now that money is not tied to anything but what a country or market says it’s worth the EU can bail out its energy companies and forgive energy bills. So take your hysterical BS somewhere else you damn fear mongering coward.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45554 posts
Posted on 9/6/22 at 11:17 pm to
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Gazprom has published a video with an epic soundtrack "And winter will be big"


Humiliating and trying to scared people is not how you convince the world that you are not weaponing natural gas and that you are a country that can be negotiated with in good faith.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15671 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:23 am to
Without Europe, who is Gazprom going to sell to? They will gain some back in 2025 to China but definitely now all of it. Besides that, with China as the only customer, that puts any testicles remaining in Russia in a squeeze.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:28 am to
There are lots of unconfirmed reports out of the area between Izium and Kharkiv about Ukraine taking back villages.

Wee Wee, this is the area we anticipated the counter-attack into the Russian flank that never materialized.

Based on the lack of forward progress and the loss of territory now in two areas of the front, it looks like Russia could be spent. That's further backed up by the reports that Russia is looking for artillery and ammo from the North Koreans.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:40 am to
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1567297092900503552
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There is a noticeable change in rhetoric in certain Russian channels recently: while large propagandists continue with victorious proclamations, smaller guys appear more desperate, like this character currently fighting, saying the situation in Kherson is becoming catastrophic.

Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:51 am to
This is an intercepted call between a Russian soldier in the Kherson area and his wife.

The recording shows the translation.

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1567185338103205888
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Clearly not as rosy for the Russians in the Kherson area as they paint it in the Russian telegram channels.

As we find from this intercepted call, there is constant HIMARS shelling, jets leave to never come back, and bridges are under permanent danger of strikes and explosions.

Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:10 am to
Wee Wee,

Another translated telegram post from a Russian discussing the Izium area.
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1567387716966354944
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Older than Edda
The Khokhols managed to at least take the northern road to Kupyansk under fire control. At night there were battles at Volkhov Yar and I fully admit that the enemy managed to knock us out of it. Balakleya is in operational encirclement, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will continue to develop success and it is likely that they will try to go to Kupyansk, cutting off both Balakleya and Izyum. They have the strength for this, as amateur bloggers have repeatedly written about. Let's see how the Russian General Staff will respond and what level of operational art it will demonstrate. Well, ordinary soldiers and officers of the Izyum Front continue to fight, as they did in the previous six months of the war.


Kupyansk is a major logistics hub that controls the rail lines in that area of the country. Many months ago I theorized that Ukraine would attack this flank and go after Kupynask, they never did.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 6:16 am to
ISW Update Sept 6

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The International Atomic Energy Agency’s (IAEA) September 6 report on the situation at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) described numerous ways in which Russian occupation authorities and the Russian military are jeopardizing the safe operation of the plant.


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The IAEA’s report is thus a coded condemnation of Russian moves that have created and are perpetuating the danger of nuclear disaster in Ukraine.


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The Russians have thus created conditions at the ZNPP that increase the risk that an emergency could occur and significantly increase the danger that the operating staff will be unable to respond efficiently and effectively in such an event


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Russian President Vladimir Putin could seek to use the fears that his actions are causing to coerce the IAEA and the international community into a de facto recognition of Russia’s right to be involved in the operation of the ZNPP, which he might seek to portray as de facto recognition of Russia’s occupation of southern Ukraine.


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Ukrainian forces conducted a counterattack in Kharkiv Oblast near Balakliya that likely drove Russian forces back to the left bank (north side) of the Severskyi Donets and Serednya Balakliika rivers on September 6.


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Russia’s deployment of forces from Kharkiv and eastern Ukraine to Ukraine’s south is likely enabling Ukrainian counterattacks of opportunity.


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Key Takeaways

The International Atomic Energy Agency report released on September 6 describes Russian activities that increase the likelihood of a nuclear accident at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant while decreasing the ability of the plant’s personnel to respond to such an accident effectively.

Ukrainian forces have launched likely opportunistic counterattacks in southern Kharkiv Oblast and retaken several settlements. Russian redeployments of forces from this area to defend against the Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kherson likely prompted and facilitated these counterattacks.

Ukrainian forces are continuing an operational-level interdiction campaign and striking Russian logistics nodes, transportation assets, manpower and equipment concentrations, and control points across Kherson Oblast.

Russian and Ukrainian sources discussed kinetic activity northwest of Kherson City and in western Kherson Oblast along the Inhulets River.

Russian forces made incremental gains south of Bakhmut and continued ground attacks north, northwest, and southwest of Donetsk City.

Russian authorities continue setting conditions to Russify Ukrainians living in Russian-occupied Ukrainian territory.
Posted by Palantir
I've been a Columbia House
Member since Oct 2020
691 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 6:41 am to
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We've been told this from the start of the war. And anyone who questions it is lambasted.
To be fair, when you left this thread like 6 months ago when you said ad nauseum Russia wouldn't invade, Russia has lost significant ground.

So, yes, significant success has happened since the aggressor invaded.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 6:50 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 7 September 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

Over the last 24 hours, heavy fighting has taken place on three fronts: in the north, near Kharkiv; in the east in the Donbas; and in the south in Kherson Oblast. Russia's planned main effort is probably an advance on Bakhmut in the Donbas, but commanders face a dilemma of whether to deploy operational reserves to support this offensive, or to defend against continued Ukrainian advances in the south.

Multiple concurrent threats spread across 500km will test Russia's ability to coordinate operational design and reallocate resources across multiple groupings of forces.

Earlier in the war, Russia's failure to do this was one of the underlying reasons for the military's poor performance.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 7:00 am to
Russian propagandist confirms encirclement of Russian elite units in Kharkiv Oblast
7 September, 02:39 PM



The Samara and Bashkir Special Rapid Response Units (SOBR), which were in Balakliya in Kharkiv Oblast, have been surrounded by Ukrainian forces, Kremlin propagandist Yury Kotenok confirmed on Telegram on Sept. 7.

According to the propagandist, who is well-known in the circles of supporters of Russian aggression against Ukraine,, the Russian units are now out of communications contact, which may indicate their destruction or capture.

"I confirm the encirclement of the assembled detachments of the Samara and Bashkir SOBRs within the boundaries of Balakliya,” the update reads.

“Yesterday we were in contact with the boys, today there is none.”

In addition, he stated that the Ukrainian army in Kharkiv Oblast is conducting an offensive on two axes at once: Kupyansk and Izyum.

"The advance to Izyum poses not only a threat to the headquarters of the Russian Armed Forces group on this axis, but also to the rear of our troops on the Slovyansk axis,” the military blogger added.

“That is why the (Ukrainians are) trying to rev up here.”

At the same time, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has not yet officially commented on the reports about the fighting around Balakliya.

The New Voice of Ukraine

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