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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:30 pm to CitizenK
Posted on 9/7/22 at 8:30 pm to CitizenK
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It has NO infrastructure via pipeline to India. it has two small LNG terminals. How is it going to get anything to India via pipeline over the Himalayas or through Afghanistan and Pakistan?
Russia is the 4th largest LNG exporter in the world and it has already started developing plans to expand its LNG export plants. However, with that being said. I was referring to Russia replacing lost oil sales to Europe with increased oil sales to India, and lost natural gas sales to Europe with increased natural gas sales to China via the Power of Siberia pipeline.
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How is it going to get anything to India via pipeline over the Himalayas or through Afghanistan and Pakistan?
Russia was actually looking at building a pipeline to India through Afghanistan and Pakistan, but it abandoned those plans last year. Russia said that it was too costly to build, but if Russia loses its European markets for good it might be forced to revisit those plans.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:01 pm to ruff fish
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I read your posts here. Every single one of them affirms something in the first person and, surprisingly, there is not a single photo proof. How so?
Because I did not take my personal Iphone 13 to Ukraine with me. I took a cheap disposable phone with me, and I bought prepaid sim card when I got to the Polish and Ukrainian border. I used that phone to take the pictures and videos with. The people from the International Criminal Court that I gave the videos to did not just want a copy of the videos they wanted the original ones and the device it was filmed on. I got to keep the sim card and they reimbursed me the cost of buying a new phone, but they kept the phone with the pictures and videos is sitting in an evidence box somewhere. So I do not have the videos or pictures anymore.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:09 pm to Obtuse1
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Multiple Explosions from apparent Ukrainian Missile Strikes are being reported across the Western Russian City of Belgorod, there are Claims that multiple locations including the Primary Electrical Station was targeted leaving over half of the City without Power.
Big explosions in Belgorod tonight. Either the Ukies are getting bold or the Russians are trying to stage a false flag. IDK which it is but the an exploding electrical substation makes for a colorful and shocking explosion.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:13 pm to Obtuse1
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I'll drop it here again:
LINK
Damn I wish you would have dropped that on here back in July. That would have been some good reading for my 48 hour journey from the USA to Ukraine. Also my wvu.edu email is still active so I was able to download it for free from researchgate.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:30 pm to WeeWee
It's LNG terminals would need to be expanded by a LOT. 74% of its natural gas was sold to Europe via pipeline.
There is a gap via several nations, right through Kabul through Pakistan to India. How are relations between India and Pakistan? Have they gotten any better?
There is a gap via several nations, right through Kabul through Pakistan to India. How are relations between India and Pakistan? Have they gotten any better?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:34 pm to WeeWee
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That would have been some good reading for my 48 hour journey from the USA to Ukraine
Godspeed...I hope you fight with honor and dignity, brother
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:36 pm to Chromdome35
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You can see the strategic importance of Kupyansk to Russia's logistics.
Kupyansk is important to Russian logisitics because there is a massive rail yard. However it is not the only target. There is a rail road bridge across the Oskil River near the village of Bukyne that is even more important. It is more important because the rail roads from Belgorod go through Kupyansk and then have to cross that bridge, but before they cross that bridge they merge with the rail roads coming from Russia near the town of Svyatogorsk. So taking out that bridge blocks both rail lines of supply. Take out that bridge and the Russians have to try to supply Izyum by using trucks to carry supplies down a 2 lane road with the Rasputitsia coming. It just so happens that bridge is now in range of casually discharged cigarettes.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:40 pm to WeeWee
It did start construction on a major pipeline to China in JV with China last year but that will take not quite half of what was going to Europe. It will open in 2025. Russian pipelines are known for their leaking as they are not built to Western standards and safety factors. Typically during the Soviet Era it was joint efficiency in welds which were substandard using twice the amount of steel in wall thickness (it was about creating a market for their steel production increases to internal markets)
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:50 pm to CitizenK
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There is a gap via several nations, right through Kabul through Pakistan to India. How are relations between India and Pakistan? Have they gotten any better?
No and that is the reason why work on the TAPI pipeline has stalled and the pipelines remains unfinished. However, India needs a lot of natural gas, and Pakistan will need natural gas in the future as it's expected to start exhausting its natural gas supplies in the near future. Afghanistan is also going to need natural gas if it wants to advance past the stone age. So it is very possible that the TAPI is completed despite the political turmoil in Afghanistan and friction between Pakistan and India because they are both going to need it in the near future. When/if the TAPI pipeline is ever finished then Russia could tap into it by building new pipelines in Turkmenistan or reversing the glow of the existing pipelines running form Turkmenistan assuming Russia still has the political and military might to "convince" Turkmenistan to let it free ride on the TAPI project.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 9:56 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Godspeed...I hope you fight with honor and dignity, brother
I'm already back in the USA. I was only in Ukraine for 2 weeks, and I was not fighting. I was gaining experience in treating combat wounded since I am in the Army Reserve and they might need doctors who have seen combat wounds. I was just one of hundreds of American military members on the ground taking advantage of the opportunity to learn what a full scale war between 2 major militaries looks like.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:00 pm to TBoy
There is little reporting of the war efforts around Kherson, which hints that they don’t want to report on those losses. I saw a WaPo article that quoted several Ukrainian soldiers describing how tough it has been.
This looks to be a long and drawn out battle with heavy casualties expected.
This looks to be a long and drawn out battle with heavy casualties expected.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:03 pm to WeeWee
Okay, I didn't remember that one. It's capacity as planned is about 20% of what Europe was getting from Russia. Kazakhstan also wants other markets as well, as a landlocked nation
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:06 pm to CitizenK
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It did start construction on a major pipeline to China in JV with China last year but that will take not quite half of what was going to Europe. It will open in 2025. Russian pipelines are known for their leaking as they are not built to Western standards and safety factors. Typically during the Soviet Era it was joint efficiency in welds which were substandard using twice the amount of steel in wall thickness (it was about creating a market for their steel production increases to internal markets)
No shite. It was back in 2020 or maybe even 2019 that Russians announced that they were planning on taking Nord Stream 1 offline for an extended period of maintenance once Nord Stream 2 was up and running. Nord Stream 2 was supposed to be up and running by now. It would not surprise me at all that the reason why the Russians had cut back the flow of gas and now stopped the flow of gas through Nord Stream 1 is that there are maintenance issues that could not be fixed in a timely fashion, and Russia is using sanctions as cover to keep from admitting that it cannot fix its own pipeline. I'm not saying that Russia is not using gas a weapon to hurt the west or get NATO to stop supporting Ukraine, because I believe it is doing that to an extent. However, I am saying that I don't believe it is as simple as that. If Russia was using gas as a weapon to hurt the west and get NATO to stop supplying Ukraine then why is it still pumping gas to central Europe through its pipelines in Ukraine and the Balkans? After all it is eastern and central Europe that is actually helping Ukraine not western Europe.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:10 pm to WeeWee
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I was gaining experience in treating combat wounded since I am in the Army Reserve and they might need doctors who have seen combat wounds
That’s good stuff. Genuine respect.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:16 pm to ruff fish
Please show proof of a HIMARS strike on the nuclear power plant. Thanks. I don’t believe you. Are you just saying this because HIMARS and our M777 howitzers can actually hit what they aim at without having to fire 500 shells and is better than anything you can field against it?
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:20 pm to CitizenK
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Okay, I didn't remember that one. It's capacity as planned is about 20% of what Europe was getting from Russia. Kazakhstan also wants other markets as well, as a landlocked nation
Yes but once a route to India is found and one pipeline laid. It would be relatively easy for the route's capacity to be expanded. Once the TAPI is built the hard work of establishing a ROW would have been done. Russia and/or Kazakhstan would just have to build in the same ROW. Turkmenistan is an associate member of the CIS and its new president Serdar Berdimuhamedow was just awarded the Russian Medal of Friendship by Putin in June. Turkmenistan is also in talks with the Taliban to allow construction to resume. If construction resumes then it is possible that Turkmenistan might partner with Russia to build the pipeline if they can resolve the other issues.
ETA: It also would not surprise me if Russia dropped its “environmental objections” to the Trans-Caspian Gas Pipeline between Turkmenistan and Azerbaijan. Russia could then reverse the flow of some of the pipelines between Russia and Turkmenistan and sale its gas to Europe through a concealed source. I could see Turkmenistan making that deal in a heartbeat if Russia guaranteed to stop interfering with Turkmenistan's natural gas exports to China which travel in pipelines that run through Siberia. Either way is an example of how this war has backfired on Russia. It has pissed of its main customer and now that customer is looking to diversify its gas supplies, and Russia is either going to have to humble itself and partner with one or more of its former colonies to sneak gas back into the European market or access a new market to replace the one it lost.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:39 pm to AGGIES
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This looks to be a long and drawn out battle with heavy casualties expected.
Outside of huge advantages in artillery and airpower (ie Desert Storm) dislodging dug in defenses is never quick and easy.
There are two other factors that weigh into this from the Russian side:
1. Rats caught in a corner fight like hell, rivers with no available bridges are just like walls for the Russians.
2. The doctrinal idea of steadfastness in defense:
page 48 in the Russian Way of War
They can't maneuver even when about to be trapped or are actually trapped without express senior commander orders even if they don't have communication with that officer. This is the sort of approach you must have to take with poorly trained soldiers with poorly trained junior officers but it means a lot of unnecessary deaths.
I don't know what the Ukes have on their mind but I have a guess. I think they decided not to pursue a front-wide counter-attack but instead concentrate their forces in the area of Kherson. Why Kherson? While it has strategic and morale value I think it has a lot to do with supply. Since Kherson was such a large city it has lots of roads in the non-occupied area the Ukrainians can use for their resupply. Once the bridges are cut off the area is a long and difficult resupply route for the Russians from either the north or the south. I imagine the hope is to push the Russians back to the west bank of the Dnipro across the entire front by winter. This appears unlikely BUT it is possible the entire Russian western front falls apart quickly once the Ukes get a foothold behind the Russian defenses. They just have to be in a position to act quickly and decisively once that opportunity avails itself because that door will close.
Unless or until one side obtains air superiority this is going to be a slow war of attrition and the winner will likely be based on the grit, determination, and will of both the winning army and the public behind them. When you aren't even willing to fly Frogfoots into the AO this is what you get, watching them use close air support at a standoff to lob munitions at the enemy just makes me shake my head, this is not how these are designed to be used.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:01 pm to Obtuse1
They might as well just save the jet fuel and not fly the sortie when they pull the pitch and ditch maneuver. The pilot’s first job in a ground attack aircraft like the A-10 or the Su-25 is to engage the ground threat. The Frogfoot pilot’s primary concern isn’t hitting the enemy though, it’s to get rid of their ordinance as fast and low as possible and then to get out of air defense range. You can’t even generally aim with that maneuver you’re just guessing at how far the bomb or rockets are going to fly before impact. This wouldn’t fly under any circumstance in the United States Air Force.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:11 pm to LSUPilot07
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They might as well just save the jet fuel and not fly the sortie when they pull the pitch and ditch maneuver. The pilot’s first job in a ground attack aircraft like the A-10 or the Su-25 is to engage the ground threat. The Frogfoot pilot’s primary concern isn’t hitting the enemy though, it’s to get rid of their ordinance as fast and low as possible and then to get out of air defense range. You can’t even generally aim with that maneuver you’re just guessing at how far the bomb or rockets are going to fly before impact. This wouldn’t fly under any circumstance in the United States Air Force.
It would not work in the USAF. However, it makes sense if you think about it in Russian. The Russian pilots get to fly, shoot at the enemy, return to base, and claim they killed a himars. They get a ribbon to wear on their uniform which will impress the widow of the poor ground pounder who died because his close air support was too afraid to actually get close.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:15 pm to Obtuse1
I would be surprised that next offensive somewhere north of Mariupol/Crimea maybe Melitipol
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