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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/2/22 at 3:24 pm to SDVTiger
Posted on 9/2/22 at 3:24 pm to SDVTiger
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So you admit they are corrupt yet are definitely kool with sending them billions
I’m cool with with paying some baws working at the US howitzer factory some overtime in exchange for reducing the number of near-peer advisories from 2 to 1:
Posted on 9/2/22 at 3:44 pm to OMLandshark
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JUST IN White House asks Congress to provide $13.7B for Ukraine as funds run out, seeks billions more for COVID-19, monkeypox. - AP
In case anyone cares this is what is the ask and why:
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The White House is asking Congress to approve $4.5 billion for military equipment and replenishing Pentagon stockpiles, $2.7 billion in defense and intelligence aid for Ukraine and $4.5 billion for budgetary support for Ukraine’s government.
The request also asks for $2 billion to support domestic energy sources — $1.5 billion for uranium to fuel nuclear reactors and $500 million to modernize the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to address impacts of Russia’s war on energy supply and prices.
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Shalanda Young, the director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, said that more than three-fourths of the $40 billion approved by Congress earlier this year has already been disbursed or committed.
LINK
Posted on 9/2/22 at 4:57 pm to StormyMcMan
Not Ukraine, but relevant to the situation:
BREAKING: Biden admin. announces $1.1 Billion arms package for Taiwan - AFP
BREAKING: Biden admin. announces $1.1 Billion arms package for Taiwan - AFP
Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:06 pm to Eurocat
Luke oil has hundred if not thousands of employees in Texas. They are damn near an official member of big oil. While many of you continue to focus on impact of oil gas embargo on Europe, it will be significant in Russia and on these companies as well as they are going to lose a huge part of their revenue. They would probably have to declare bankruptcy if they were US company.
I suspect these recent window divers etc have been using the c word and it got picked up. (Coup)
I suspect these recent window divers etc have been using the c word and it got picked up. (Coup)
Posted on 9/2/22 at 5:40 pm to TutHillTiger
I believe that they also have a lease offshore Mexico, unless it's Rosneft. Lukoil has gas station the NE with imports of refined products there. They came close to buying a shuttered ethanol plant at Myrtle Grove (downriver from New Orleans) and build a terminal for imports there back in 2003
Posted on 9/2/22 at 7:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
Ukraine retains fire control over pontoon crossings Russians set up instead of destroyed bridges
02.09.2022 22:40
The Armed Forces of Ukraine are fighting positional battles in Kherson region, having gained fire control over the pontoon crossings that the Russian invaders are trying to set up in place of the earlier destroyed bridges.
That’s according to Natalia Humeniuk, a spokesperson for Operational Command South, who spoke at the national telethon, Ukrinform reports.
"We continue positional battles. This is a difficult combat effort that requires silence... We continue to destroy the enemy's reserves, logistics points, command posts, as well as personnel, weapons, and equipment clusters, in which we are quite successful," Humeniuk said.
The spokesperson added that the ongoing battles are quite difficult, given the steppe terrain where the Armed Forces need to develop a clear action plan so that the enemy can’t read it.
Answering a question about the efforts to destroy the Russian supply routes, Humeniuk assured the host that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are in full control of the issue.
"We keep all of their supply routes under fire control. Those that are most critical, especially bridges, are no longer passable, so the enemy is trying to set up alternative routes, although they are also under fire control […] We already see the results of hitting a pontoon crossing that they set up near the village of Lvove, hits at the Antonivskyi bridge ‘alternatives’, as we call those barges that they’re trying to use to pull weapons and equipment across the river," the spokeswoman said.
At the same time, Humeniuk noted that it is impossible to simply block all transport routes, as they are also used for humanitarian purposes, so the Armed Forces of Ukraine keep them under fire control.
As reported by Ukrinform, the Ukrainian command provides no details about the course of hostilities in Kherson region while they continue.
UKRINFORM
02.09.2022 22:40
The Armed Forces of Ukraine are fighting positional battles in Kherson region, having gained fire control over the pontoon crossings that the Russian invaders are trying to set up in place of the earlier destroyed bridges.
That’s according to Natalia Humeniuk, a spokesperson for Operational Command South, who spoke at the national telethon, Ukrinform reports.
"We continue positional battles. This is a difficult combat effort that requires silence... We continue to destroy the enemy's reserves, logistics points, command posts, as well as personnel, weapons, and equipment clusters, in which we are quite successful," Humeniuk said.
The spokesperson added that the ongoing battles are quite difficult, given the steppe terrain where the Armed Forces need to develop a clear action plan so that the enemy can’t read it.
Answering a question about the efforts to destroy the Russian supply routes, Humeniuk assured the host that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are in full control of the issue.
"We keep all of their supply routes under fire control. Those that are most critical, especially bridges, are no longer passable, so the enemy is trying to set up alternative routes, although they are also under fire control […] We already see the results of hitting a pontoon crossing that they set up near the village of Lvove, hits at the Antonivskyi bridge ‘alternatives’, as we call those barges that they’re trying to use to pull weapons and equipment across the river," the spokeswoman said.
At the same time, Humeniuk noted that it is impossible to simply block all transport routes, as they are also used for humanitarian purposes, so the Armed Forces of Ukraine keep them under fire control.
As reported by Ukrinform, the Ukrainian command provides no details about the course of hostilities in Kherson region while they continue.
UKRINFORM
Posted on 9/2/22 at 9:16 pm to StormyMcMan
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The request also asks for $2 billion to support domestic energy sources — $1.5 billion for uranium to fuel nuclear reactors and $500 million to modernize the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to address impacts of Russia’s war on energy supply and prices.
I’m for this very much in particular. First allocations I’ve seen that make sense on energy looking forward, could have been other allocations in previous requests/bills I didn’t see, but regardless this is smart.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 9:17 pm to DabosDynasty

This post was edited on 9/2/22 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 9/2/22 at 9:33 pm to OMLandshark
they are buying it, not a lend lease, not a gift.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 9:34 pm to DabosDynasty
Norway's Troll is happy for the business. Someone has to pay for the 650,000 ton structure called Troll "A" platform
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:02 pm to cypher
ISW Update
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Russian independent polling organization Levada posted survey results on September 1 indicating that while the majority of Russians still support military operations in Ukraine, public support for the war may be gradually declining.
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Russian and proxy officials are solidifying their narratives surrounding the Ukrainian counteroffensive to amplify false claims that the Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kherson Oblast is detrimental to Ukraine’s continued existence.
Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu claimed on September 2 that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky planned the Ukrainian counteroffensive in Kherson Oblast solely to create an illusion among “Western curators” that Ukrainian forces can conduct an effective counteroffensive.[5] Luhansk People’s Republic (LNR) Deputy Interior Minister Vitaly Kiselyov claimed that Ukrainian forces’ engagement in the counteroffensive was (referring to the offensive in past tense) “collective suicide” and suffered high casualties.[6] Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko claimed on September 1 that internal Ukrainian divisions will soon force the military conflict to end.[7] Russian milbloggers increased their amplification of these narratives on September 1-2 as the information space around the success and tempo of the Ukrainian counteroffensive remained murky.
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Key Takeaways
Independent polling showed that a majority of Russians still support the Russian war in Ukraine.
Russian and proxy officials are solidifying their narratives surrounding the Ukrainian counteroffensive to claim it will debilitate the Ukrainian military.
Ukrainian officials reported that positional battles are underway in unspecified areas of Kherson Oblast and that Ukrainian forces are continuing to strike Russian ground lines of communications (GLOCs), logistics nodes, and reinforcement efforts throughout southern and central Kherson Oblast.
Russian forces conducted ground attacks south and northeast of Bakhmut and along the western and northern outskirts of Donetsk City.
Russian forces continued targeting Ukrainian rear areas along GLOCs and may be reinforcing the Southern Axis by reallocating equipment from Russian rear areas in Donbas and Crimea.
Ukrainian sources claim that Russia can pull an additional 300,000-350,000 military personnel from support units in Russia, Syria, Armenia, Tajikistan, Nagorno Karabakh, and Kazakhstan. These figures do not accurately represent the fact that support units placed into combat roles will not generate substantial combat power and are necessary for supporting combat, training, and other operations.
Posted on 9/2/22 at 10:29 pm to StormyMcMan
Daily update from Malcontent News
Kherson & Mykolaiv
The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues its media blackout and press coverage restrictions until September 5. Ukrainian armed forces, the local population, and most press sources have honored the request. Gaining verified information while respecting operational security (OPSEC) has been a challenge.
Video emerged of a Russian forward operating base in Shyroka Balka that was destroyed in what appears to have been a HIMARS attack.
Ukrainian forces are finding the most success on the Inhulets River bridgehead. Pro-Russian accounts reported Ukraine had liberated Kostromka and was fighting for control of Bruskynske. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported that Lozove, Sukhyi Stavok, and Velyke Artakove were hit by air strikes, confirming that Ukrainian troops were present in all three settlements.
Pro-Russian account Rybar reported continued fighting for control of Arkhanhelske and claimed that Russian troops were pushed out of Olhnye and Vysokopillya but were able to push back into the southern parts, where street fighting continued. A video showed Ukrainian forces shelling Russian positions in the city’s southern tip.
The General Staff also reported that Ukrainian positions in Lyubomirivka and Petrivka were shelled, and Khreshchenivka was hit by an airstrike.
Operational Command South reported an additional strike on the Kakhovka and Dariivsky Bridges, including destroying a partially rebuilt pontoon bridge at Darivka. Ukraine claims to have fire control over the remains of the three bridges over the Dnipro. Satellite imagery shows only one ferry operating across the Dnipro at Kherson and no additional work on the barge bridge.
The Ukrainian air force carried out 24 air strikes, which is a significant increase from the 16 missions flown on August 30.
Dnipropetrovsk & Northern Zaporizhia
United Nations inspectors with the International Atomic Energy Agency arrived in Enerhodar and took an initial survey of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant. IAEA Director General Mariano Grossi reported that a team of five inspectors would remain at the plant through September 2 for a deeper audit of the situation. Inspectors were filmed by Russian state media going through the plant and discovering military equipment stored by Reactor 1, as shown in previous undercover videos.
Earlier in the day, minutes after inspectors left Zaporizhzhia city to travel to the plant, heavy shelling of the green corridor started. Thirty minutes later, Russian officials claimed that Ukraine had launched a paratrooper attack on the plant using helicopters. Videos from Enerehodar showed Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopters flying over the city – equipment the Ukrainian armed forces do not possess and would not be able to obtain from western sources.
Valentyn Reznichenko, Head of the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast Military Administration, reported that the Chervonohryhorivka hromada (an area of territorial control similar to a county or parish in the United States) was hit by several Grad rockets. A 56-year-old man attempted to escape by driving away, and his car was hit by a rocket. Amazingly he survived and is in stable condition. It was the only area shelled overnight.
Southern Zaporizhia
A HIMARS attack on the Russian-controlled airbase in Melitopol landed ten rockets on an ammunition depot. There were multiple social media reports of a large fire with secondary explosions.
Donetsk
Fighting increased in intensity west of Donetsk, but Russian forces didn’t make any gains. The 1st Army Corps of the DNR attempted to advance on Avdiivka, Nevelske, Pervomaiske, Pisky, and Krasnohorivka. All five advances failed. The Russian Ministry of Defense claimed for the eighth time since August 5 that Pisky had been captured.
Bakhmut
PMC Wagner and the 2nd Army Corps of the LNR relaunched their attacks on Soledar and Bakhmutske but remained unable to break through Ukrainian defenses. Wagner Group is suffering catastrophic losses after a month of repeated attacks on Bakhmut but continues to send reinforcements to attack the same Ukrainian positions. Ukraine was able to rotate defending units, with most territorial guards replaced with better-equipped and trained forces.
Further south, LNR separatists continued their attempts to advance on Vesela Dolyna and Zaitseve. Gains were made in Vesela Dolyna but measured in meters, and the attack on Zaitseve was unsuccessful.
In the Svitlodarsk Bulge, fighting for Kodema continued, with Russian forces establishing their positions in the eastern part of the village. Russian forces made a new attempt to advance on Mayorsk and could not break through the Ukrainian defenses.
Izyum
Russian forces attempted to advance on Dolyna and were unsuccessful. The Russian air force attacked Nova Dmytrivka and Bohorodychne.
Kharkiv
Russia fired a single S-300 antiaircraft missile at Kharkiv city. The missile successfully shot down four parked cars and left a large crater in the ground. There were no injuries.
Sumy and Chernihiv
Dmytro Zhyvytsky, Sumy Oblast Administrative and Military Governor, reported the hromadas of Krasnopillia, Nova Sloboda, Znob-Novhorod, Esman, and Kyrykivka, were shelled by Russian forces firing from across the international border. In the village of Maiske, two cars, a garage, and a home were damaged.
Russian forces fired across the international border and shelled Kamianska Sloboda, Zaliznyi Myst, and Senkivka in the Chernihiv oblast. There weren’t any reports of serious damage or casualties.
Daily Assessment
1. There is enough available evidence indicating that Ukraine is making progress in the Kherson counteroffensive in three locations, despite Kremlin claims that it has already failed.
2. Russian President Vladimir Putin has set September 15 as the new deadline to capture the remainder of the Donetsk oblast, and in our assessment, that is impossible.
3. The Russian Ministry of Defense continues its aggressive disinformation campaign about the counteroffensive.
Kherson & Mykolaiv
The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues its media blackout and press coverage restrictions until September 5. Ukrainian armed forces, the local population, and most press sources have honored the request. Gaining verified information while respecting operational security (OPSEC) has been a challenge.
Video emerged of a Russian forward operating base in Shyroka Balka that was destroyed in what appears to have been a HIMARS attack.
Ukrainian forces are finding the most success on the Inhulets River bridgehead. Pro-Russian accounts reported Ukraine had liberated Kostromka and was fighting for control of Bruskynske. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported that Lozove, Sukhyi Stavok, and Velyke Artakove were hit by air strikes, confirming that Ukrainian troops were present in all three settlements.
Pro-Russian account Rybar reported continued fighting for control of Arkhanhelske and claimed that Russian troops were pushed out of Olhnye and Vysokopillya but were able to push back into the southern parts, where street fighting continued. A video showed Ukrainian forces shelling Russian positions in the city’s southern tip.
The General Staff also reported that Ukrainian positions in Lyubomirivka and Petrivka were shelled, and Khreshchenivka was hit by an airstrike.
Operational Command South reported an additional strike on the Kakhovka and Dariivsky Bridges, including destroying a partially rebuilt pontoon bridge at Darivka. Ukraine claims to have fire control over the remains of the three bridges over the Dnipro. Satellite imagery shows only one ferry operating across the Dnipro at Kherson and no additional work on the barge bridge.
The Ukrainian air force carried out 24 air strikes, which is a significant increase from the 16 missions flown on August 30.
Dnipropetrovsk & Northern Zaporizhia
United Nations inspectors with the International Atomic Energy Agency arrived in Enerhodar and took an initial survey of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant. IAEA Director General Mariano Grossi reported that a team of five inspectors would remain at the plant through September 2 for a deeper audit of the situation. Inspectors were filmed by Russian state media going through the plant and discovering military equipment stored by Reactor 1, as shown in previous undercover videos.
Earlier in the day, minutes after inspectors left Zaporizhzhia city to travel to the plant, heavy shelling of the green corridor started. Thirty minutes later, Russian officials claimed that Ukraine had launched a paratrooper attack on the plant using helicopters. Videos from Enerehodar showed Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopters flying over the city – equipment the Ukrainian armed forces do not possess and would not be able to obtain from western sources.
Valentyn Reznichenko, Head of the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast Military Administration, reported that the Chervonohryhorivka hromada (an area of territorial control similar to a county or parish in the United States) was hit by several Grad rockets. A 56-year-old man attempted to escape by driving away, and his car was hit by a rocket. Amazingly he survived and is in stable condition. It was the only area shelled overnight.
Southern Zaporizhia
A HIMARS attack on the Russian-controlled airbase in Melitopol landed ten rockets on an ammunition depot. There were multiple social media reports of a large fire with secondary explosions.
Donetsk
Fighting increased in intensity west of Donetsk, but Russian forces didn’t make any gains. The 1st Army Corps of the DNR attempted to advance on Avdiivka, Nevelske, Pervomaiske, Pisky, and Krasnohorivka. All five advances failed. The Russian Ministry of Defense claimed for the eighth time since August 5 that Pisky had been captured.
Bakhmut
PMC Wagner and the 2nd Army Corps of the LNR relaunched their attacks on Soledar and Bakhmutske but remained unable to break through Ukrainian defenses. Wagner Group is suffering catastrophic losses after a month of repeated attacks on Bakhmut but continues to send reinforcements to attack the same Ukrainian positions. Ukraine was able to rotate defending units, with most territorial guards replaced with better-equipped and trained forces.
Further south, LNR separatists continued their attempts to advance on Vesela Dolyna and Zaitseve. Gains were made in Vesela Dolyna but measured in meters, and the attack on Zaitseve was unsuccessful.
In the Svitlodarsk Bulge, fighting for Kodema continued, with Russian forces establishing their positions in the eastern part of the village. Russian forces made a new attempt to advance on Mayorsk and could not break through the Ukrainian defenses.
Izyum
Russian forces attempted to advance on Dolyna and were unsuccessful. The Russian air force attacked Nova Dmytrivka and Bohorodychne.
Kharkiv
Russia fired a single S-300 antiaircraft missile at Kharkiv city. The missile successfully shot down four parked cars and left a large crater in the ground. There were no injuries.
Sumy and Chernihiv
Dmytro Zhyvytsky, Sumy Oblast Administrative and Military Governor, reported the hromadas of Krasnopillia, Nova Sloboda, Znob-Novhorod, Esman, and Kyrykivka, were shelled by Russian forces firing from across the international border. In the village of Maiske, two cars, a garage, and a home were damaged.
Russian forces fired across the international border and shelled Kamianska Sloboda, Zaliznyi Myst, and Senkivka in the Chernihiv oblast. There weren’t any reports of serious damage or casualties.
Daily Assessment
1. There is enough available evidence indicating that Ukraine is making progress in the Kherson counteroffensive in three locations, despite Kremlin claims that it has already failed.
2. Russian President Vladimir Putin has set September 15 as the new deadline to capture the remainder of the Donetsk oblast, and in our assessment, that is impossible.
3. The Russian Ministry of Defense continues its aggressive disinformation campaign about the counteroffensive.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 12:11 am to TBoy
https://twitter.com/Volodymyr_D_/status/1565807467765932033
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What forces does Russia have on the western bank of the Dnipro?
Are there enough Ukrainian troops to attack?
Posted on 9/3/22 at 4:22 am to Chromdome35
Russin Pilots Told to use the brakes less on Western Made planes because they don't have the parts to maintain the brakes -
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Posted on 9/3/22 at 6:21 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 3 September 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Since 29 August 2022, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been conducting renewed offensive operations in the south of Ukraine. One element of this offensive is an ongoing advance on a broad front, west of the Dnipro River, focusing on three axes within Russian-occupied Kherson Oblast.
The operation has limited immediate objectives, but Ukraine's forces have likely achieved a degree of tactical surprise; exploiting poor logistics, administration and leadership in the Russian armed forces.
With fighting also continuing in the Donbas and Kharkiv sectors, a key decision for Russian commanders in coming days will be where to commit any operational reserve force they can generate.
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 3 September 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Since 29 August 2022, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been conducting renewed offensive operations in the south of Ukraine. One element of this offensive is an ongoing advance on a broad front, west of the Dnipro River, focusing on three axes within Russian-occupied Kherson Oblast.
The operation has limited immediate objectives, but Ukraine's forces have likely achieved a degree of tactical surprise; exploiting poor logistics, administration and leadership in the Russian armed forces.
With fighting also continuing in the Donbas and Kharkiv sectors, a key decision for Russian commanders in coming days will be where to commit any operational reserve force they can generate.
Posted on 9/3/22 at 7:12 am to OMLandshark
The graft spigots are wide open. Still 10% for the "Big Guy?" 
Posted on 9/3/22 at 8:22 am to Perfect Circle
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Dictator of #Belarus Alexander #Lukashenko states that there is a conflict between #Zelenskyy and the #Ukrainian military. He claimed that there will be some kind of coup, because the military "does not want to tolerate the radicalism of President Zelenskyy any longer".
@nexta_tv
Posted on 9/3/22 at 9:11 am to StormyMcMan
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Today, the G7 formally endorsed a price cap on Russian oil sales. This plan has been in the works for months. Many doubted it would get across the finish line.
Bottom line: This is a big deal. It will erode the Kremlin's most critical source of revenue: oil exports (threas):
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(1) First things first: Oil is the lifeblood of Russia's economy. In recent years, oil has accounted for 30-40% of the Kremlin budget. But sanctions have caused a 15% decline in Russia's non-oil revenues. The result is that oil is playing an increasingly essential role for Putin.
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(3) Russia has already been selling oil at a steep discount—>$20 lower than Brent prices. Yet global oil prices have been so high this year that the Kremlin's total oil revenues have remained substantial. Russia has earned ~$20 billion selling oil each month this year.
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(4) These oil profits have cushioned the Russian economy amid a torrent of sanctions (though sanctions are still biting—Russia's economy is poised for a contraction of >5% this year). If you're looking for a reason Russia's economy hasn't yet collapsed, look no further than oil.
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(5) We saw a similar phenomenon with Iran sanctions before 2012. From 2006-12, sanctions effectively froze Iran out of the global financial system. But the economy continued to grow. Iran's economy didn't fall off a cliff until the US rolled out global oil sanctions in 2012.
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(8) How will the G7 price cap work? For starters, there will actually be two price caps: one for crude oil, another for refined products. Implementation day for crude oil will be December 5 of this year, when the EU maritime insurance ban is set to begin and US GL-8C expires.
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(9) Details will be hammered out in the coming months. But we do know that the G7 will prohibit the provision of all services (payments, insurance, financial services, brokering, bunkering, piloting, etc) for shipments of Russian oil that exceed the price cap.
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(12) Will China or India endorse the policy? No way. But will they comply with it? I suspect that, by and large, Russian and Indian companies will comply. Non-compliance would involve taking on big risks and paying more for unproven insurance, shipping, and other services.
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(14) Will Russia comply? The Kremlin has already threatened not to sell oil to anyone that complies with the price cap. But the costs to Russia of turning off the taps would be grim. Moscow cannot afford to go without oil revenues—even for a short time.
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(15) While we don't yet know what the initial price cap will be—or what the process will entail for selecting it—we do know that it will be set above Russia's marginal cost of production. So Russia will have strong economic incentives to continue to sell oil.
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(17) Could it fail? Of course. This is a first-of-its-kind policy. But in many ways, it requires less of a mental leap than the Iran oil sanctions of 2012—which cut Iran's volumes by more than 60% and locked up all of its oil revenues in restricted accounts outside of Iran.
@edwardfishman
Posted on 9/3/22 at 9:16 am to StormyMcMan
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Could it fail? Of course.
Of course its going to fail when they are just rerouting
Posted on 9/3/22 at 9:32 am to Perfect Circle
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The graft spigots are wide open. Still 10% for the "Big Guy?"
Nope
The Big Guy got 10% when he was VP. Now that he’s president he gets 20%.
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