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Posted on 8/6/22 at 11:56 pm to CitizenK
Something interesting from the talk which Col. Milburn, USMC retired, said was that all those YouTube intercepts of Russian soldiers calling home to complain about drunk/drugged commanding officers, units getting totally destroyed and Ukrainians being better soldiers are definitely real. It is from technology available from a British company.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:30 am to SOSFAN
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So what does everyone think about the report that 70% of the weapons sent to Ukraine are MIA?
If you watched the story, that was never claimed. The reporter followed the head on a small NGO from Lithuania delivering non-lethal aide to people fighting in Ukraine. He started the NGO in 2014 when the war in Donbas started, and he has delivered about 4M Euros worth of goods since.
When they got to the border, he started handing out goods. He made more deliveries along the route. One of the groups was probably an insurgent group that operates behind the lines in the "Sniper War". Later, his group was trying to end up at the front with the remaining supplies, but they were targeted by Russian artillery, so the 4 vehicles were forced to split up. When the reporter asked him how much of these goods actually make it to the front lines, he came back with the 30% number.
It is a big step to go from 70% of his supplies don't make it to the front line to saying 70% of the weapons sent to the Ukraine are MIA.
I am sure that some of the weapons that go to Ukraine end up with insurgents and other groups, but NATO tracks all supplies sent to Ukraine, and they are satisfied with how they are being handled.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:41 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 7 August 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
The poor performance of Russia's armed forces during its invasion of Ukraine has been costly for Russia's military leadership, highly likely resulting in the dismissal of at least six Russian commanders since the start, of hostilities in February 2022.
The commanders of Russia's Eastern and Western Military Districts have highly likely lost their commands. General-Colonel Aleksandr Chayko was dismissed as Commander of the Eastern Military District in May 2022. General-Colonel Aleksandr Zhuravlev, who has commanded the Western Military District since 2018, was absent from Russia's Navy Day in St Petersburg on 31 July 2022 and has highly likely been replaced by General-Lieutenant Vladimir Kochetkov.
General Aleksandr Vladimirovich Dvornikov has subsequently been removed after been given overall command of the operation in Ukraine, and General Sergei Surovikin has assumed command of the Southern Grouping of Forces from General Gennady Valeryevich Zhidko. These dismissals are compounded by at least 10 Russian Generals killed on the battlefield in Ukraine. The cumulative effect on consistency of command is likely contributing to Russian tactical and operational difficulties.
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 7 August 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
The poor performance of Russia's armed forces during its invasion of Ukraine has been costly for Russia's military leadership, highly likely resulting in the dismissal of at least six Russian commanders since the start, of hostilities in February 2022.
The commanders of Russia's Eastern and Western Military Districts have highly likely lost their commands. General-Colonel Aleksandr Chayko was dismissed as Commander of the Eastern Military District in May 2022. General-Colonel Aleksandr Zhuravlev, who has commanded the Western Military District since 2018, was absent from Russia's Navy Day in St Petersburg on 31 July 2022 and has highly likely been replaced by General-Lieutenant Vladimir Kochetkov.
General Aleksandr Vladimirovich Dvornikov has subsequently been removed after been given overall command of the operation in Ukraine, and General Sergei Surovikin has assumed command of the Southern Grouping of Forces from General Gennady Valeryevich Zhidko. These dismissals are compounded by at least 10 Russian Generals killed on the battlefield in Ukraine. The cumulative effect on consistency of command is likely contributing to Russian tactical and operational difficulties.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 6:56 am to cypher
Energoatom: Russian troops fire rockets at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, sensors damaged
Sunday, 7 August 2022, 12:59
On the evening of 6 August, the Russian army fired rockets at the city of Enerhodar, hitting the site of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant directly next to the area used for storing spent nuclear fuel.
Source: Energoatom (the National Nuclear Energy Generating Company of Ukraine), Dmytro Orlov, mayor of Enerhodar
Details: One employee was wounded by shrapnel and is now in hospital. The explosions broke the plant’s windows over an area of 800 square metres.
Energoatom reports that about 500 Russians and Rosatom staff members hid in bunkers before the attack.
Quote: "They were clearly aiming specifically at the containers of spent nuclear fuel, which is stored in the open air near the sites that were hit. There are 174 containers, each of which contains 24 spent nuclear fuel assemblies!
Three radiation monitoring sensors near the plant’s dry cask storage site were damaged by the enemy rockets. It is therefore currently impossible rapidly to detect or respond to a deterioration in the radiation situation or radiation leakages from containers of spent nuclear fuel."
Ukrainska Pravda
Sunday, 7 August 2022, 12:59
On the evening of 6 August, the Russian army fired rockets at the city of Enerhodar, hitting the site of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant directly next to the area used for storing spent nuclear fuel.
Source: Energoatom (the National Nuclear Energy Generating Company of Ukraine), Dmytro Orlov, mayor of Enerhodar
Details: One employee was wounded by shrapnel and is now in hospital. The explosions broke the plant’s windows over an area of 800 square metres.
Energoatom reports that about 500 Russians and Rosatom staff members hid in bunkers before the attack.
Quote: "They were clearly aiming specifically at the containers of spent nuclear fuel, which is stored in the open air near the sites that were hit. There are 174 containers, each of which contains 24 spent nuclear fuel assemblies!
Three radiation monitoring sensors near the plant’s dry cask storage site were damaged by the enemy rockets. It is therefore currently impossible rapidly to detect or respond to a deterioration in the radiation situation or radiation leakages from containers of spent nuclear fuel."
Ukrainska Pravda
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:06 am to cypher
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It is a big step to go from 70% of his supplies don't make it to the front line to saying 70% of the weapons sent to the Ukraine are MIA.
I am sure that some of the weapons that go to Ukraine end up with insurgents and other groups, but NATO tracks all supplies sent to Ukraine, and they are satisfied with how they are being handled.
I read it similarly - that the supplies (lethal and non-lethal) were not necessarily reaching the intended recipient (specific unit and location). Not that 70% was now in Russian or in the black market but being used by others such as different units or whatever.
However, i am not convinced that the US or anyone is doing a sufficient job of ensuring the safety of the equipment. See Rand Paul trying to fortify the aid packages with such language.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:15 am to TigersnJeeps
ISW Update
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Russian and Ukrainian forces traded accusations of dangerous shelling at the Russian-occupied Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (NPP) on August 6 continuing the exchange of accusations ISW reported on August 5.[1] ISW cannot independently determine which party is responsible for the incident.
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Note: ISW does not receive any classified material from any source, uses only publicly available information, and draws extensively on Russian, Ukrainian, and Western reporting and social media as well as commercially available satellite imagery and other geospatial data as the basis for these reports. References to all sources used are provided in the endnotes of each update.
Key Takeaways
A Russian opposition outlet reported that Russian forces are storing explosives and mines in and around Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant and may have mined parts of the plant.
Russian forces may also be firing rockets at Ukrainian positions from within or near the plant.
Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks northwest of Slovyansk and east and south of Bakhmut.
Russian forces conducted a series of ground attacks to attempt to break through Ukrainian defensive lines north, west, and south of Donetsk City.
Russian forces did not conduct offensive operations in southern Ukraine and continued to undertake defensive measures.
Ongoing Ukrainian partisan activity and civilian resistance are frustrating Russian occupation forces as Russian occupation authorities continue to prepare for the integration of occupied territories into the Russian Federation following their upcoming sham annexation referenda.
Russian state media advocated for labor camps, repressions, and shooting of Ukrainian partisans and civilians that refused to cooperate with Russian-appointed officials in occupied Ukrainian territories.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:47 am to StormyMcMan
It’s more likely that Ukraine shelled the nuclear powerplant than Russia.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:04 am to Allyn McKeen
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you watched the story, that was never claimed
It's amazing how people just flat out lie knowing they are lying.
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All of this stuff goes across the border, and then something happens, kind of like 30% of it reaches its final destination," said Jonas Ohman, founder and CEO of Blue-Yellow, a Lithuania-based organization that has been meeting with and supplying frontline units with military aid in Ukraine since the start of the conflict with Russia-backed separatists in 2014.
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am sure that some of the weapons that go to Ukraine end up with insurgents and other groups, but NATO tracks all supplies sent to Ukraine, and they are satisfied with how they are being handled.
No where in the report does that Statement appear. Another straight up lie.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 8:14 am
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:10 am to CitizenK
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Something interesting from the talk which Col. Milburn, USMC retired, said was that all those YouTube intercepts of Russian soldiers calling home to complain about drunk/drugged commanding officers, units getting totally destroyed and Ukrainians being better soldiers are definitely real. It is from technology available from a British company.
Retired British general interviewed recently said the west should strive to help Ukraine win. But a defeat for Russia puts Putin in jeopardy. Putin won't allow that so according to Russian doctrine what will he/they do? Of course, tactical nukes. That's what we are moving toward. Now I do believe the US would be aware of those intentions in real time if not before.
Citizen, what did the dude at VMI say. I've slept.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:17 am to Strannix
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All the weapons being sent to the corrupt Ukrainian regime are disappearing quote:"There are like power lords, oligarchs, political players," Ohman said, describing the corruption and bureaucracy he has to work around. "The system itself, it's like, 'We are the armed forces of Ukraine. If security forces want it, well, the Americans gave it to us.' It's kind of like power games all day long, and so eventually people need the stuff, and they go to us." LINK Bunch of simp idiots
But but but Ukraine is a sovereign democracy. There’s NO way it’s a corrupt cesspool.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:19 am to Stidham8
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But but but Ukraine is a sovereign democracy. There’s NO way it’s a corrupt cesspool.
Are they selling to stuff to Russia? India?
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:26 am to SOSFAN
Turkey Agrees To Pay For Russian Gas With Rubles
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Russian President Vladimir Putin announced months ago that unfriendly nations would be required to pay for Russian energy through a rubles account to insulate Russia from the effects of Western sanctions. While Russia would not consider Turkey an unfriendly nation, Turkey’s payment in rubles for Russia’s natural gas would protect those payments from sanctions, and could smooth things over with Moscow, who might otherwise frown on Turkey’s activities in Syria.
Last month, Turkey also helped broker a deal to ship grain between Russia and Ukraine, further strengthening ties between Russia and Turkey.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:32 am to Stidham8
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But but but Ukraine is a sovereign democracy. There’s NO way it’s a corrupt cesspool.
The sad thing is we already knew Ukraine was a corrupt country. Our current American leadership is terrified that their corruption with Ukraine will come to light.
I hope Ukraine and Russia both lose.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:40 am to SOSFAN
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But with setbacks in Donetsk and Luhansk, the appalling realisation is sinking in that this is likely to be a very bloody war, lasting years. The country’s coastline is in the invaders’ hands and its ports are blockaded. A serious economic crisis is looming both in Ukraine and more widely. While Ukraine is not winning, it is losing.
The reporting in this thread has been extremely one sided so here is a reality check.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:55 am to aTmTexas Dillo
Milburn's background is that he was a regimental commander of the Marine Raiders. They fought ISIS in Iraq and Syria and his talk was more about ethics in the service and out of the service being necessary, as an officer maintaining discipline which the Russians have none to speak of, but the Ukrainians do at a much higher level. This undercuts the theft argument.
He described how actual cell phone intercepts of Russian soldiers shows that it went into Ukraine with next to no discipline in its troops and the morale was and is poor at best. Lack of leadership by officers at every level is the reason for the poor morale among the Russians from the start through May, when his talk was given.
The report by CBS splices together interviews from PRE major aid packages and makes it looks like it was after all those Switchblade drones were even approved. It talks about ammo which the USA doesn't even provide, Soviet weapons ammo. Poland has been the major supplier/conduit of all of that. The NGO guy who, has been delivering non lethal supplies since 2014, hasn't been in country for months.
As for the Amnesty International lady, we all know how they misrepresented Ukrainians use of schools and hospitals recently, as if they were in facilities with civilians which hasn't been the case after they shutdown months ago. So that is pure bunk.
The report is meant to hook those who don't pay attention which is standard in media. The same media that would report all these yeehaw boys such as Stidham, OML, etc... as extremist far right Neo Nazis.
He described how actual cell phone intercepts of Russian soldiers shows that it went into Ukraine with next to no discipline in its troops and the morale was and is poor at best. Lack of leadership by officers at every level is the reason for the poor morale among the Russians from the start through May, when his talk was given.
The report by CBS splices together interviews from PRE major aid packages and makes it looks like it was after all those Switchblade drones were even approved. It talks about ammo which the USA doesn't even provide, Soviet weapons ammo. Poland has been the major supplier/conduit of all of that. The NGO guy who, has been delivering non lethal supplies since 2014, hasn't been in country for months.
As for the Amnesty International lady, we all know how they misrepresented Ukrainians use of schools and hospitals recently, as if they were in facilities with civilians which hasn't been the case after they shutdown months ago. So that is pure bunk.
The report is meant to hook those who don't pay attention which is standard in media. The same media that would report all these yeehaw boys such as Stidham, OML, etc... as extremist far right Neo Nazis.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:57 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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they are selling to stuff to Chyna + India
Fify. Interesting country to be selling too
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:58 am to CitizenK
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The reason so many farmers went bankrupt in the early 80's was mostly from overspending and being over leveraged when the prices fell to normal.
The interest rate for crop loans in the 80s was also insanely high. The average interest rate for a crop loan was 15% in 1980. I can remember my father talking about having a crop loan with 20% interest rate in the late 80s.
However with that being said, most farmers I know did nothing but whine about China’s unfair practices under Obama. Then they cried about Trump’s trade war and low crop prices while saying that they supported Trump, only to jump with glee when Biden won because prices would go up. Now they are crying about high fertilizer prices and high fuel prices. Meanwhile their wives all drive expensive SUVs and they all drive relatively new king ranchs and silverados. Then they get upset when they get called out on their BS like they are nothing but virtuous hard working good ole boys.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 9:07 am
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:58 am to Jim Rockford
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Up to 100,000 North Korean soldiers could be sent to bolster Vladimir Putin’s forces fighting Ukraine, according to Russian reports.
A leading defence expert in Moscow, reserve colonel Igor Korotchenko, told state TV: “We shouldn’t be shy in accepting the hand extended to us by Kim Jong-un.”
North Korea has made it clear through “diplomatic channels” that as well as providing builders to repair war damage, it is ready to supply a vast fighting force, reported Regnum news agency.
They would be deployed to the forces of the separatist pro-Putin Donetsk People’s Republic [DPR] and Luhansk People’s Republic [LPR], both of which Kim has recently recognised as independent countries.
“The country is ready to transfer up to 100,000 of its soldiers to Donbas,” said the report by the pro-Kremlin news agency.
“Pyongyang will be able to transfer its tactical units to Donbas.” In return, grain and energy would be supplied to Kim’s stricken economy.
Well that’s interesting in a larger view. Of course it’s a bit telling of Russian performance, but also potentially gives us a view of NK capabilities and if anything close to effective gives their army combat experience to train with, which they haven’t had in almost 70 years. Assuming they aren’t all casualties of course.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:00 am to DabosDynasty
So now you believe Russian reports?
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