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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/5/22 at 4:44 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Posted on 8/5/22 at 4:44 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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Except it's gone more or less our way until now. The way we wanted it to go since the 1980s and to an extent post WWII. But there is an obvious large push from China primarily with Russia grabbing their coat tails to change the way the world works. From now on the US its going to have to work to try to keep it like it was. For me, looking forward there will be a greater push to try to peel countries away from the west. We will likely see all "non-democracies" overtly align with the ChiRUIranians. Think about the brewing troubles with de-democratization in S America. What will South Africa do? The US is going to have to work with a few others to hold it together. Watch to see what Russia does to destabilize those countries in eastern Europe (Balkans) with restive populations. All that is needed is for a country to invite them in for help similar to what they did in Syria.
Communists have been active in SA for decades. Venezuela, Chili and Panama. They control Cuba and made inroads in Nicaragua. They made efforts in Mexico also.
SA had had dictators in different countries for decades. Remember Peron? Pinochet? SA is not a bastion of democracy.
Your world view is narrow. Events happening now have happened before, Things are always fluid. In WW1 Japan and Italy were on our side. We fought them in WW2. Now they are back on our side.
The US needs to be active in foreign affairs. We can never stay on the sidelines. We don’t nerd to be actively involved in wars sll the time, but we need to be directly involved when our national security is threatened.
Our word has to be good. Our presidents need to be smart snd savvy. When our enemies smell weakness they will strike. Look at Putin for evidence of that.
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 4:48 pm to OMLandshark
Wagner Group is Putin's favorite merc company. It is named for Hitler's favorite composer and is made up of many of Russia's Neo Nazis, with SS tattoos and all.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 4:51 pm to CitizenK
Looks like the Ukrainian counterattack is towards Izyum rather than Kherson.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:15 pm to CitizenK
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:37 pm to OMLandshark
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it is their insane cultism that Wagner represents to a glorious past that allows them to justify any atrocity they may do no matter how horrific and crazy it may be.
You're such a weirdo.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 5:42 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 6:50 pm to OMLandshark
Sounds like both sides have been busy today fighting because someone bombed the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. The largest nuclear power plant in Europe.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:18 pm to MrLSU
The plant itself or nearby like earlier this week hammering Russian troops gathered nearby?
Posted on 8/5/22 at 7:34 pm to MrLSU
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Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant
Just did a quick Google search. Says it will open at 7am on Monday so couldn't have been too bad.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:34 pm to Abstract Queso Dip
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Ukrainian officials confirmed that Russia is using Iranian-provided drones in Ukrain
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Key Takeaways
Ukrainian officials confirmed that Russian forces are using Iranian-provided drones in Ukraine.
Russian forces conducted unsuccessful ground assaults on settlements south of Bakhmut.
Russian and Ukrainian forces exchanged heavy artillery fire in Pisky, suggesting that Russian forces are unlikely to have full control of Pisky despite Russian claims.
Russian forces conducted several limited ground assaults to the north, northwest, and southwest of Donetsk City.
Russian and Ukrainian forces accused each other of firing rounds near the Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Plant (NPP) in Enerhodar, but ISW cannot independently determine which party is responsible for the incident.
Russian forces have repeatedly used artillery systems deliberately positioned within the complex to fire on targets across the Dnipro River.
Russian forces unsuccessfully attempted to advance on Lozove, Kherson Oblast, likely targeting the Ukrainian bridgehead over the Inhulets River.
Russian federal subjects are forming new volunteer battalions in Omsk and Samara Oblasts.
Russian occupation authorities are likely accelerating passportization and rubleization efforts and civilian data collection in occupied territories in preparation for the upcoming pseudo-referenda on the annexation of occupied Ukrainian territory into Russia.
The Kremlin is continuing to replace Ukrainian collaborators in Russian occupation administrations with Russian officials, likely to prepare for formal Russian governance of annexed areas.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:42 pm to StormyMcMan
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:42 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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So are they intentionally targeting orphanages and hospitals or just missing?
The only military installations within 10 kms of the city center in Vinnystia that Russia attacked last month (the one that killed one of the people that I knew in Ukraine and her 14 month old daughter) was a WW2 monument. The Russian missiles have are not as accurate as western missiles but they are not that inaccurate. Russia is 100% targeting civilians in a terror campaign.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:42 pm to StormyMcMan
Russians running to safety... not safe from the eye in the sky. In life sometimes a little steel rain must fall. Not sure what they were running from but a couple fall down in their haste.
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:48 pm to Obtuse1
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 8:52 pm to CitizenK
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Looks like the Ukrainian counterattack is towards Izyum rather than Kherson.
They made Russia shift resources to Kherson and now they are taking advantage of the weakened Russian position near Izyum.
BTW the Kherson counterattack is still going on. Ukraine has superior numbers now and the shorter GLOCs. Ukraine also still has tons of reserves still waiting to exploit whichever front has a breakthrough first.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:00 pm to Obtuse1
That was brutal. Hard to watch even though it’s war.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:05 pm to Kentucker
I only saw one guy get out...brutal.
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:35 pm to cypher
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Russian warship Vasily Bykov destroyed by ZSU near Sevastapol, this morning. 20 sailors missing. Harpoon missile probably was used.
Ukraine currently doesn’t have any ground positions where it could launch harpoons or neptune ASMs to attack a warship near Sevastapol. My sauce in Ukraine intel told me back in June that they had a few small crafts left in their navy and they were using their shipyards to try and rig them up to fire ASMs and once they did they had a nasty present for Crimea. I didn’t pay much attention to that because one of my sauce(s)’ jobs is to push Ukrainian propaganda out to social media platforms but he has had a good deal of truth mixed in.
Now I’m just spit balling here, but Ukraine’s shipyards are in Mykolaiv and that could explain why Russia has all of a sudden taken an interest in launching missiles against it when they had pretty much ignored it since being driven out of artillery range back in May. I wonder if the Ukies figured out how to mount some ASMs on their small boats. Also I wonder how much damage an ASM missile or two would do to the Kerch Straits Bridge if the Ukies are crazy either to try and strike it?
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 8/5/22 at 9:51 pm to Jim Rockford
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Up to 100,000 North Korean soldiers could be sent to bolster Vladimir Putin’s forces fighting Ukraine, according to Russian reports. A leading defence expert in Moscow, reserve colonel Igor Korotchenko, told state TV: “We shouldn’t be shy in accepting the hand extended to us by Kim Jong-un.” North Korea has made it clear through “diplomatic channels” that as well as providing builders to repair war damage, it is ready to supply a vast fighting force, reported Regnum news agency. They would be deployed to the forces of the separatist pro-Putin Donetsk People’s Republic [DPR] and Luhansk People’s Republic [LPR], both of which Kim has recently recognised as independent countries. “The country is ready to transfer up to 100,000 of its soldiers to Donbas,” said the report by the pro-Kremlin news agency. “Pyongyang will be able to transfer its tactical units to Donbas.” In return, grain and energy would be supplied to Kim’s stricken economy.
Well this is not going to work out good for NK. If 100,000 NK troops leave NK it will break the illusion that NK is a workers’ paradise and even war-torn Ukraine is better than NK. Plus Russians are pretty rascist and I don’t know how well the average Russian soldier will like fighting next to a starving North Korean.
Anyway even with 100,000 NK troops. Ukraine still has a 4-1 advantage in manpower now.
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John Bolton for sabotaging the US-NK peace deal. NK is definitely going to get Russian help to make nukes that can fight on ICBMs and maybe even MERVs out of this deal (if it’s true). Any chance of a formal peace treaty and end of the Korean War will go down the drain now. Again John Bolton. 
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