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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:40 am to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 11:40 am to
I’m not apologizing for anything or anyone. Just pointing out that most of this thread is full of Ukrainian propaganda and most posters here, especially you, seem unwilling or unable to try and find out what’s really going on.

But thank you for your valuable contributions to this thread. The terms Orc and Putain are particularly helpful.
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:12 pm to
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Apparently they care a lot more than the United States does about civilian casualties. We killed civilians at a much higher rate in Iraq. You’re a fool who allows his emotions to be controlled by blatant propaganda.


You have a link to this information?

The initial war against Iraq began in Kuwait so how did we kill so many Iraqis?

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Even if we double the number of Ukrainian civilian deaths (24K) and extrapolate what Iraqi civilian casualties would have been assuming the US invasion lasted 5 months(30K deaths), the the evil Orcs are fighting a more civilized and humanitarian war than the United States did in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.


Please link the Iraqi rate of fatalities and the Ukranian rated so we can see who was the most ruthless.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:15 pm to
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Apparently they care a lot more than the United States does about civilian casualties. We killed civilians at a much higher rate in Iraq. You’re a fool who allows his emotions to be controlled by blatant propaganda.


No, we didn’t.

That’s a bullshite comparison. A 3 week expeditionary invasion through multiple cities with more than a 1,000,000 people including one with a metro area of 10M compared to a static front war in mostly evacuated small and medium towns. Not comparable.
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 12:20 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:15 pm to
Most of this thread unfortunately is hijacked by people who are diverting attention from what Russia is going and had done.

It is supposed to be about the actual war.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:23 pm to
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No, we didn’t.


I only used Iraqi civilian casualties from the intitula invasion, not the occupation after. Estimated Iraqi civilians for the invasion range between 4.5K and 7K. That’s just for 3 weeks.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:41 pm to
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I only used Iraqi civilian casualties from the intitula invasion, not the occupation after. Estimated Iraqi civilians for the invasion range between 4.5K and 7K. That’s just for 3 weeks.


From what I found with a quick google, March and April of 2003 were the highest two months of deaths. March was 3977 and April was 3448. So your three week totals are wrong.

Furthermore this counts all deaths from violence not ftom Americans. Plus they are questions as to the accuracy.

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Following are the yearly IBC Project violent civilian death totals, broken down by month from the beginning of 2003. The top of the IBC database page with the table says 185,194 – 208,167 "Documented civilian deaths from violence". That page also says: "Gaps in recording and reporting suggest that even our highest totals to date may be missing many civilian deaths from violence."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:43 pm to
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thank you for admitting you are a Putain apologist


Jesus christ man.. Are you a Democrat?

Why do you think the US media is giving us a whitewashed version of this war? You're not in the least suspicious?
This post was edited on 8/5/22 at 12:45 pm
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:44 pm to
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Yeah, name calling, from this genocidal count. crazy4lsu hasn’t seen a picture of a Russian child since February whose head he wouldn’t blow off himself if he had the opportunity.


You're coming unglued
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Why do you think the US media is giving us a whitewashed version of this war? You're not in the least suspicious?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105508 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

Up to 100,000 North Korean soldiers could be sent to bolster Vladimir Putin’s forces fighting Ukraine, according to Russian reports.

A leading defence expert in Moscow, reserve colonel Igor Korotchenko, told state TV: “We shouldn’t be shy in accepting the hand extended to us by Kim Jong-un.”

North Korea has made it clear through “diplomatic channels” that as well as providing builders to repair war damage, it is ready to supply a vast fighting force, reported Regnum news agency.

They would be deployed to the forces of the separatist pro-Putin Donetsk People’s Republic [DPR] and Luhansk People’s Republic [LPR], both of which Kim has recently recognised as independent countries.

“The country is ready to transfer up to 100,000 of its soldiers to Donbas,” said the report by the pro-Kremlin news agency.

“Pyongyang will be able to transfer its tactical units to Donbas.”

In return, grain and energy would be supplied to Kim’s stricken economy.
LINK
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:24 pm to
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Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 1:57 pm to
It’s all Ukraine’s fault. They should have surrendered day one.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:00 pm to
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Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:28 pm to
Another 1bil to Ukraine

This has to be the spending that allows us to end Putin





Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:30 pm to
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Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:34 pm to
Putin has some real winners for his buddies:

Iran, North Korea and the Chicoms.

I wonder how the Russia/Putin supporters spin this?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99005 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:35 pm to
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Now I’m just getting angry about this


You shouldnt be. This clearly wont be spent just allocated like the other 40bil


But all of this is worth it to end that scumbag Putin. You are crazy think otherwise
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 2:56 pm to
Probably something made up from Alex Jones et al
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16157 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 3:01 pm to
The point is that you just don't get what Russia is doing or are like a 2 year old mouthy child who wants to stay up later than bedtime and looking for every inane reason to argue to stay up. It sure seems like you are quite young due your arguments, or never grew up
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24291 posts
Posted on 8/5/22 at 3:04 pm to
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Even if we double the number of Ukrainian civilian deaths (24K) and extrapolate what Iraqi civilian casualties would have been assuming the US invasion lasted 5 months(30K deaths), the the evil Orcs are fighting a more civilized and humanitarian war than the United States did in the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

This is not a consideration. No tip of the hat to Russia from me.
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