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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:40 pm to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:40 pm to Lima Whiskey
That fire the same munitions at the same ranges. Notice I said the M270 was much heavier and slower than the HIMARS? That’s where the double launchers and tracked vs wheeled comes into play. Our C-17’s can carry 2 HIMARS and the C-130 can carry one as well while the C-130 can’t carry a M270 as they weigh about 26 tons. The HIMARS is much better suited for the shoot and scoot missions they are being used for and logistically are much easier to get to the battlefield as they don’t need to be trailered like the tracked M270.
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 8:52 pm to doubleb
HOLOFOMOR
For those Russian dick suckers and those that want to really to understand why Ukrainians would rather burn in hell than serve under the Russians again, here is it. (Link) One if the first genecides. Millions killed, starved deported or sent to gulags (10 to 30 precent of population estimated) including almost all leaders, intellectuals, poets, successful farmers, etc. Anyone with a brain. Culture completely destroyed by Stalin a few decades after being completely encouraged by Lenin. Then when they tried to leave they blocked the borders. They sent police house to house to secure all possible food even took pets and seedlings for the next season. Hitler was a better human being that this murderous bastard and killed less people.
So yeah at first they welcomed the Nazis over this shite. Who wouldn’t.
Just give them the tactical nukes and let’s move on
Holodomor Incident
For those Russian dick suckers and those that want to really to understand why Ukrainians would rather burn in hell than serve under the Russians again, here is it. (Link) One if the first genecides. Millions killed, starved deported or sent to gulags (10 to 30 precent of population estimated) including almost all leaders, intellectuals, poets, successful farmers, etc. Anyone with a brain. Culture completely destroyed by Stalin a few decades after being completely encouraged by Lenin. Then when they tried to leave they blocked the borders. They sent police house to house to secure all possible food even took pets and seedlings for the next season. Hitler was a better human being that this murderous bastard and killed less people.
So yeah at first they welcomed the Nazis over this shite. Who wouldn’t.
Just give them the tactical nukes and let’s move on
Holodomor Incident
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:03 pm to TutHillTiger
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Key Takeaways
Russian forces are likely emerging from their operational pause, launching ground assaults north of Slovyansk, southeast of Siversk, around Bakhmut, and southwest of Donetsk City.
Russian forces continued to defend occupied positions in the Kharkiv City direction to prevent Ukrainian forces from advancing toward the Russian border in Kharkiv Oblast.
Russian forces continued their systematic attacks on civilian infrastructure targeting residential infrastructure, recreational facilities, and educational institutions in Mykolaiv City on July 15.
Chelyabinsk Oblast officials announced the completion of a volunteer battalion on July 15.
Russian occupation authorities continued to institute new societal control measures in occupied territories.
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Russian forces are likely emerging from their operational pause as of July 15.
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Ukrainian HIMARS strikes have likely killed or wounded four Russian 106th Airborne Division deputy commanders
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:10 pm to TutHillTiger
I have a shelf full of books on the homoaldor and other pre 1941 soviet atrocities. Also have 2 shelves full about the entire operation barberrosa til the capture of Berlin.
This isn't a unique period of world history. The magnitude though of today's war is on such a level lower than what we are experiencing. The Germans caused as many as 2.5 front line casualties through early 1942. Not counting the horribles of the rear. Just in Ukraine 2.5 million at least through early 1942
This isn't a unique period of world history. The magnitude though of today's war is on such a level lower than what we are experiencing. The Germans caused as many as 2.5 front line casualties through early 1942. Not counting the horribles of the rear. Just in Ukraine 2.5 million at least through early 1942
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:22 pm to CitizenK
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Russia-Ukraine Conflict by CitizenKPer former active duty USMC recon and former SEALS, Ukrainian news is accurate as far as what is happening other than not reporting Ukrainian casualties in men and equipment.
The way I see it, the Ukranians are fighting fir their very existence as a nation. If I were them I would do anything to beat Rusdia and using the media for propaganda purposes is an easy call. You do what you have to do to a point and using the press is certainly not a war crime.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:34 pm to doubleb
Exactly. You can’t underestimate the fact that the Ukrainians are literally fighting for their existence while the Russians are just doing Putin’s bidding and really don’t care to be there. Yes they are outgunned but think about if it were someone trying to invade the U.S. and take over. Even with all the crazy left wing democrat bullshite and the people that follow them I still believe the vast majority of Americans would do anything we had to in order to repel an invasion. It’s no different for the Ukrainians. Putin would have to sacrifice several hundred thousand lives so he can feel like Peter the Great. The best thing that can possibly happen is the Russian people rise up and overthrow Putin but unfortunately most are just sheep that swallow the propaganda bullshite that their state media feeds them. Putin wants his people poor and stupid, they are more controllable that way.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:23 pm to cypher
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F**k Russia and anyone who supports Russia. Just wanted you to know that my upvote pertained to this sentence. Really sorry to hear about the terrible injuries.
Thanks but I checked my email this evening and I saw an email from one of my Ukrainian friends. The pregnant mother died last night and the 14 month old daughter died this afternoon. The husband/father was killed in the fighting earlier and the two didn’t have any other children. Just a terrible story that POS like Ruff Fish and Lima Whiskey will say is not true, and extra large POS scumbags like Sir Winston will cheer over.
Posted on 7/15/22 at 10:46 pm to WeeWee
Grrrr
Posted on 7/16/22 at 6:42 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 16 July 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Russian offensive operations remain reduced in scope and scale, with fighting west of Lysychansk focussed on Siversk and Bakhmut. This is despite Russian claims to have entered the outskirts of Siversk town earlier in the week.
Russia has previously made premature and false claims of success. This is likely at least in part aimed at demonstrating success to domestic audiences and to reinforce the morale of the fighting forces.
Ukrainian defence has been successful in repulsing Russian attacks since Lysychansk was ceded and the Ukrainian defensive line was shortened and straightened. This has allowed for the concentration of force and fires against reduced Russian attacks and has been instrumental in reducing Russia's momentum.
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 16 July 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Russian offensive operations remain reduced in scope and scale, with fighting west of Lysychansk focussed on Siversk and Bakhmut. This is despite Russian claims to have entered the outskirts of Siversk town earlier in the week.
Russia has previously made premature and false claims of success. This is likely at least in part aimed at demonstrating success to domestic audiences and to reinforce the morale of the fighting forces.
Ukrainian defence has been successful in repulsing Russian attacks since Lysychansk was ceded and the Ukrainian defensive line was shortened and straightened. This has allowed for the concentration of force and fires against reduced Russian attacks and has been instrumental in reducing Russia's momentum.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:00 am to cypher
AFU Suffer Largest Losses In May - Reznikov
15 July 2022, Friday, 17:26
The Armed Forces of Ukraine suffered the largest losses in the war with Russian invaders in May this year, then up to 100 soldiers were killed a day. The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksii Reznikov announced this in an interview with BBC Ukraine.
"The biggest peak of our losses was in May. When Mykhailo Podoliak and the President spoke in June, they were meant," Reznikov said.
He noted that during this period up to 100 soldiers a day were killed, from 300 to 400 defenders were wounded.
Reznikov also said that at that time the advantage of the invaders was significant, especially in the Donetsk direction - the invaders used up to a thousand artillery shells per hour. At the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not have such a number of shells.
Ukrainian News Agency
15 July 2022, Friday, 17:26
The Armed Forces of Ukraine suffered the largest losses in the war with Russian invaders in May this year, then up to 100 soldiers were killed a day. The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksii Reznikov announced this in an interview with BBC Ukraine.
"The biggest peak of our losses was in May. When Mykhailo Podoliak and the President spoke in June, they were meant," Reznikov said.
He noted that during this period up to 100 soldiers a day were killed, from 300 to 400 defenders were wounded.
Reznikov also said that at that time the advantage of the invaders was significant, especially in the Donetsk direction - the invaders used up to a thousand artillery shells per hour. At the same time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not have such a number of shells.
Ukrainian News Agency
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:21 am to cypher
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??Russian Defense Minister orders Russian troops to 'increase actions' in Ukraine.
Russian Ministry of Defense reported that Sergey Shoigu “inspected” Russian troops fighting in Ukraine, saying that he “visited a command post” but didn't specify the location or the date.
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Russia's Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu paid a surprise visit to the country, the ministry revealed on Saturday. Shoigu was accompanied by commanding officers of the "South" and "Center" troops to review the progress made by Russian troops in the war. Also, during the visit, the Defence Minister gave the necessary instructions to boost the actions and eliminate the possibility of the Ukrainian forces launching any attack on the Donbas region.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 7:22 am
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:25 am to StormyMcMan
Not really shocking but finally confirmed
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1/2??China sells to Russia the goods it needs to continue its war against Ukraine - The Wall Street Journal.
In 2022, shipments of chips from China to Russia rose by double-digit percentages. LINK
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2/2 Exports of aluminium oxide used to make metallic aluminium, an important material in weapons and aerospace manufacturing, were 400 times higher than last year.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 7:54 am to cypher
Portion of BBC interview with Reznikov. If you access the interview via Microsoft Edge you can choose to have it translated.
Reznikov BBC Interview
"I don't teach The War."
In an interview with Time, you said that President Zelensky ordered the recapture of the occupied coastal regions of Ukraine, which are vital for the Ukrainian economy, and for this Kiev is assembling a million-strong army. Could you explain more specifically what you meant?
O.R.: Let's put it this way, there was a little misunderstanding (misunderstanding). I didn't say we were assembling a million-strong army. Let them forgive my English, it is not native to me.
(Now) I clearly formulate: today in the security and defense sector we have a million people under the bayonet in one form or another. I mean the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including territorial defense units, the national guard, the border guard service, the national police, the State Emergency Service, the Security Service of Ukraine, as well as the security units of the NABU, and so on.
The million that I'm talking about, not us, is going to make up another million.
RADDATZ: Well, let's take this statement to pieces. Is there a specific order to recapture the southern regions?
O.R.: There is a specific order of the President to the General Staff to prepare plans for the de-occupation of the whole of Ukraine, including the territories occupied since 2014. A specific order. And then, from the point of view of prioritization of plans - the military, based on capabilities, should propose this (plan)...
Q: So we're not talking about a specific offensive that's going to start now?
O.R.: And we can't talk about a specific offensive operation, because I'm not a general. We agreed with Mr. Zaluzhny that I would not teach him to fight. And the president, by the way, does not teach to fight. The President sets political tasks, and the military professionally prepares this or that campaign.
RADDATZ: Because there's a perception that this statement was so slightly political in nature. It was announced immediately after Putin's "we have not started anything yet."
O.R.: I never reflect on anyone, much less the Kremlin quotes. I say what I think is necessary to convey to society. And when someone there shouts: "Oh, they revealed plans!" - why hide the plan that we plan to de-occupy all our occupied lands? We're not hiding it. We will reach internationally recognized borders as of 1991. Point.
BBC: That is, including Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk?
O.R.: Absolutely. The question is the order of campaigns and the resource that we need for this. And we are discussing this, completely without hiding it, with our partners. They know our plans. And they help us, understanding what and when we need for this or that promotion.
Reznikov BBC Interview
"I don't teach The War."
In an interview with Time, you said that President Zelensky ordered the recapture of the occupied coastal regions of Ukraine, which are vital for the Ukrainian economy, and for this Kiev is assembling a million-strong army. Could you explain more specifically what you meant?
O.R.: Let's put it this way, there was a little misunderstanding (misunderstanding). I didn't say we were assembling a million-strong army. Let them forgive my English, it is not native to me.
(Now) I clearly formulate: today in the security and defense sector we have a million people under the bayonet in one form or another. I mean the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including territorial defense units, the national guard, the border guard service, the national police, the State Emergency Service, the Security Service of Ukraine, as well as the security units of the NABU, and so on.
The million that I'm talking about, not us, is going to make up another million.
RADDATZ: Well, let's take this statement to pieces. Is there a specific order to recapture the southern regions?
O.R.: There is a specific order of the President to the General Staff to prepare plans for the de-occupation of the whole of Ukraine, including the territories occupied since 2014. A specific order. And then, from the point of view of prioritization of plans - the military, based on capabilities, should propose this (plan)...
Q: So we're not talking about a specific offensive that's going to start now?
O.R.: And we can't talk about a specific offensive operation, because I'm not a general. We agreed with Mr. Zaluzhny that I would not teach him to fight. And the president, by the way, does not teach to fight. The President sets political tasks, and the military professionally prepares this or that campaign.
RADDATZ: Because there's a perception that this statement was so slightly political in nature. It was announced immediately after Putin's "we have not started anything yet."
O.R.: I never reflect on anyone, much less the Kremlin quotes. I say what I think is necessary to convey to society. And when someone there shouts: "Oh, they revealed plans!" - why hide the plan that we plan to de-occupy all our occupied lands? We're not hiding it. We will reach internationally recognized borders as of 1991. Point.
BBC: That is, including Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk?
O.R.: Absolutely. The question is the order of campaigns and the resource that we need for this. And we are discussing this, completely without hiding it, with our partners. They know our plans. And they help us, understanding what and when we need for this or that promotion.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 10:14 am
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:04 am to CitizenK
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Per former active duty USMC recon and former SEALS, Ukrainian news is accurate as far as what is happening other than not reporting Ukrainian casualties in men and equipment.
Men and equipment. That's pretty much the whole enchilada though. Winning the Twitter war pales if you're losing the war on the ground.
By U.S. estimates, Russian casualties are heavy... but are inclusive of LPR and NPR losses, in addition to other nationalities scraped together to fight for them. An obvious reflection of Russia's preference to put those conscripts at the tip of the spear. Fewer body bags back home.
Thus far, Putin seems willing to continue his revanchist endeavor. Progress being marked by wholesale artillery destruction.
Strategy with HIMARS and M270 MLRS is seemingly to starve those artillery pieces logistically. If Ukraine can successfully do so, can they muster the manpower for prolonged counter offensives? I'm distrustful of the numbers being bandied about as to reserve strength.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:26 am to MNCTigah
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By U.S. estimates, Russian casualties are heavy... but are inclusive of LPR and NPR losses, in addition to other nationalities scraped together to fight for them. An obvious reflection of Russia's preference to put those conscripts at the tip of the spear. Fewer body bags back home. Thus far, Putin seems willing to continue his revanchist endeavor. Progress being marked by wholesale artillery destruction. Strategy with HIMARS and M270 MLRS is seemingly to starve those artillery pieces logistically. If Ukraine can successfully do so, can they muster the manpower for prolonged counter offensives? I'm distrustful of the numbers being bandied about as to reserve strength.
Same here.
Cutting supply lines to stall the Russians could work to a point, but will the Ukranians be able to go on the counterattack and be successful as they were in the north? That’s the big question right now. Technology can just do so much. Do they have the manpower to take advantage of the situation when the time comes.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 9:34 am to LSUPilot07
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Exactly. You can’t underestimate the fact that the Ukrainians are literally fighting for their existence while the Russians are just doing Putin’s bidding and really don’t care to be there.
Personally I hope every Russian sob that crossed that border dies. Every damn one of them.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:00 am to AU86
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Personally I hope every Russian sob that crossed that border dies. Every damn one of them.
Most of those guys are just kids. You’re the type of emotionally unstable piece of shite that would commit war crimes.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:09 am to GeauxxxTigers23
You are a Russian apologist. Those same "kids" as you call them have committed war crimes. Raped, stolen, killed innocent civilians. Basically destroyed a country and its peoples lives. They have no problem shelling civilians do they? They are participants in a war of aggression/invasion. Nazis were tried at Nuremberg on such cbarges.
Don't try to lecture me you Russian apologist pos.
Don't try to lecture me you Russian apologist pos.
This post was edited on 7/16/22 at 10:11 am
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:09 am to AU86
You are naive and immature. I suggest you grow up at some point.
Posted on 7/16/22 at 10:17 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Have no answer regarding what these "kids" have done do you? You excuse their actions/crimes and call them "kids".
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