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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:02 pm to
I think he meant how the Ukrainians would do in Slovakian MiGs vs. the Russians.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:14 pm to
I was thinking of how our jets would do against the Russians.


The Ukrainians are losing one to three jets a week now. According to the Russian MOD press releases.

I don’t think the Russians have lost a jet since March or April.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:41 pm to
You should wipe your arse with Russian MOD releases.

BTW, we should wait for the confirmation, but the Ukrainians are claiming today to have taken down 2 Russian SU-25's with manpads: LINK
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 1:47 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:44 pm to
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You should wipe your arse with Russian MOD releases.

We should wipe our arse with both Russian AND Ukrainian defense releases.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:45 pm to
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the training of Russian pilots is no where close to the level of the Americans or NATO air forces


Who's flying them over Ukraine?

Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

I don’t think the Russians have lost a jet since March or April.


In the Zaporizhzhia direction, Ukrainian fighters from Special Operations Center ‘A’ of the Security Service of Ukraine and the Armed Forces of Ukraine have shot down two Russian planes.

Friday, 15 July 2022, 21:42

The relevant statement was made by the Security Service of Ukraine, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

“Recently, near such settlements as Orikhiv and Stepove, the enemy has attempted to attack the Ukrainian positions with two Su-25 aircrafts. But, our fighters acted in advance and precisely hit the enemy planes with the man-portable air-defense system,” the report states.

UKRINFORM
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 1:58 pm to
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I don’t think the Russians have lost a jet since March or April.


this frickin guy
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:06 pm to
Here's the funeral of a Russian SU-34 pilot in May (from Oryx).



He's right that their losses have really gone down, though, at least in the open sources. I've read they're flying a lot of safe sorties these days, firing a lot of cruise missiles from occupied territory, etc.. I think aircraft are especially hard to replace for them at this point with the import sanctions.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:09 pm to
Interesting? It would be a turkey shoot. Even the biggest Russian apologist like you can’t deny the United States Air Force is unparalleled and that the Russians are nowhere in their league. Our planes are better and most importantly our training is better and more frequent. Two squadrons of F-16 fighters and it’s over the horizon air to air and air to ground precision weaponry with US trained Ukrainian pilots would be the absolute worst nightmare for Putin.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 2:18 pm
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:18 pm to
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We should wipe our arse with both Russian AND Ukrainian defense releases.


Lol, weren’t you complaining about the lack of information coming out of Ukraine and Russia? Now you are complaining it’s untrustworthy.
I agree, it all has to be taken with a grain of salt. You can expect both sides to embellish their numbers and to hide their set backs.
This post was edited on 7/15/22 at 4:44 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Lol, weren’t you composing about the lack of information coming out of Ukraine and Russia?
No. I think the western media has done a laughable job of covering the war. I suspect they are doing it on purpose to hide Ukraine’s losses and war crimes while highlighting Russia’s setbacks and war crimes.

I would expect both Russia and Ukraine to be disingenuous to help their own war effort. Western media is just absolute garbage in general.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:30 pm to
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I think the western media has done a laughable job of covering the war. I suspect they are doing it on purpose to hide Ukraine’s losses and war crimes while highlighting Russia’s setbacks and war crimes.

Why? What are they trying to protect without going all big conspiracy on me?
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:30 pm to
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According to the Russian MOD press releases.


Wow, the orcs own you outright.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:32 pm to
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No. I think the western media has done a laughable job of covering the war.


Its embarrassing. I had little faith in media, but they've proved again how worthless they are, outside of being a mouthpiece for certain agencies.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3027 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:34 pm to
SUKA

Why are you are you worried about people's past travel ro Russia?

I left Russia in 2010 after living there for 4 years. It's sad to see Russia moving back to dark times, my friends there don't deserve to live in Kleptocracy with a mad man trying to be the next Peter the Great.

I hope that Russians revolt and take their country from that a-hole Putin. Too many good people suffering for that lunatics ego.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:36 pm to
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What are they trying to protect without going all big conspiracy on me?


It’s not a conspiracy lol. Western media is obviously from “the west.” The West supports Ukraine and Western governments want to continue to support Ukraine, or more accurately oppose Russia. Highlighting Ukrainian losses with cause the general public to lose faith that Ukraine can hold out. Highlighting Russian war crimes galvanizes support for supplying and arming Ukraine.

When was the last time you saw a western journalist touring the front lines or doing actual journalism in Ukraine? Mostly the just sit in press briefings and then regurgitate what they’re told to regurgitate. How that’s different than Russian propaganda is beyond me.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

don’t think the Russians have lost a jet since March or April


quote:

this frickin guy


It’s like he’s intentionally trying to entertain us. Now that’s a new twist for propaganda.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
3027 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 2:43 pm to
After Wagner lost 300+ in Syria against an SOF detachment, Putin and his puppets don't want direct engagement with USA.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5762 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:13 pm to
First M270 systems arrive in Ukraine, good company for HIMARS – Reznikov
Friday, 15 July 2022, 19:15

The first long-range M270 Multiple-Launch Rocket Systems have arrived in Ukraine.

Source: Oleksii Reznikov, Minister of Defence of Ukraine, on Twitter

Quote: "The first M270 MLRS have arrived! They will be good company for HIMARS on the battlefield."

Details: Reznikov thanked his partners and noted that there will be no mercy for the occupiers.

Background: At the beginning of June, Britain announced the provision of M270 MLRS to Ukraine, which can hit targets at a distance of up to 80 km.

On 29 June, the Royal Norwegian Ministry of Defence promised to facilitate Ukraine’s acquisition of additional multiple rocket launcher systems from Britain by providing the British with three replacement systems.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8686 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 3:43 pm to
They need to be more careful with those than even the HIMARS. The tracked M270 can’t move away as fast as the wheeled HIMARS and is much heavier but as far as firing capability they are the exact same.
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