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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:33 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:33 pm to OMLandshark
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If you’re looking for a time to invade Ukraine, why the frick wouldn’t you take it right now? The only reason China hasn’t invaded Taiwan is they wanted to see how Russia’s test run went with Ukraine and it went well below expectations. The Russians launched their attack literally the day after the Beijing Winter Olympics wrapped. Sometimes it is as simple as it appears.
Maybe leave this argument to someone more skilled in rhetoric, because you aren't convincing at all about pretty much every subject. There's an argument for simplicity, but like I've stated, it has to be used in an appropriate setting.
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:39 pm to crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:43 pm to OMLandshark
Because he has a hat that says
You with a picture of a Crane air-conditioner underneath it. Don't be jealous. Make your cool hat.
Maybe something that says zestfully tree-hugger. Or maybe like a picture of a propeller with Ganda next to it. That would be cool.
You with a picture of a Crane air-conditioner underneath it. Don't be jealous. Make your cool hat.
Maybe something that says zestfully tree-hugger. Or maybe like a picture of a propeller with Ganda next to it. That would be cool.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 10:46 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Since the best prediction of future action is past action, the US government is not going to do jack shite to fix problems at home any time soon regardless of what party is in power. Soooo……what does this mindset tell you about the future of the Ukrainian war?
Ukraine will counter attack and the Russians will retreat. Then they will attack again. The Russians will then saw that the area they retreated from was just a feint. The posters here will eat it up as gospel truth and you will continue to be a sour puss.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:06 pm to OMLandshark
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I don’t see why I’m wrong though. This one just seems obvious to me and not up for much debate. I think only a delusional Biden voter who still defends him on literally anything would do it. I don’t see why you’re arguing with me on this since you are not a Biden supporter.
Well because this is an overly simple explanation and doesn't sufficiently account for several things. Trump being in office is far less relevant than you think, as it seems more important when Zelenskyy took office. Given what Zelenskyy ran on, and then his own national security strategy, which was published before the US election was decided, I'm very comfortable suggesting that Putin would have escalated tensions regardless of who occupied the US presidency. Countries don't go to war for abstract concepts, nor do they shy away from war due to stated threats, unless of course, those threats are put to paper. If you want some simple explanation that amounts to 'Trump big man, Biden little man' I can't disabuse you of those notions. But I'm not going to pretend that it is the best explanation in this setting nor is it the simplest.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:11 pm to DabosDynasty
These things are difference makers and they are being smart about how they deploy them. Always at night at one specific target then 5 minutes after they have shot they are already on the move again to the rear out of danger. I expect we end up sending a few more M270’s to them as well. Probably all the HIMARS they will get though along with javelins. If they really wanted to do something and it wouldn’t really cost tax payers at all since they were nearing retirement/reserve is send them a squadron of f-16s.
Posted on 7/3/22 at 11:32 pm to LSUPilot07
Forgive me if this has been posted already but this is a ten minute video of a Russian ammo depot near Krasny Luch being bombed to shite and the Russian soldiers trying to survive it. Very intense!
YouTube
YouTube
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:17 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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And if Ukraine is split, we should guaranty the security of what remains.
Why can’t the Europeans do that? And please spare me the bit about maintaining influence and prestige in the region on the world stage. I don’t really buy it for one and even if I did I wouldn’t give a shite.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:24 am to crazy4lsu
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 12:25 am to GeauxxxTigers23
I could be wrong but I think there are a bunch of Europeans at the border states. Wasn't that part of the most recent NATO meeting?
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:33 am to GeauxxxTigers23
If you don’t care about shite in Ukraine, why are you here you ANTIFA troll?
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:44 am to OMLandshark
It is fairly obvious Trump Co was/is laundering money for Russian oligarchs as well as other players. The whole Deutsche Bank thing stinks to high hell.
So yeah, I think this would play out differently if Trump was still president, but not in the way you suspect. I just think he would have sold out any other entity as long as it enriched him further as he has always done. As for Afghanistan, didn’t Trump make the deal with the Taliban to begin with?
So yeah, I think this would play out differently if Trump was still president, but not in the way you suspect. I just think he would have sold out any other entity as long as it enriched him further as he has always done. As for Afghanistan, didn’t Trump make the deal with the Taliban to begin with?
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:45 am to Abstract Queso Dip
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Russian forces turn firepower on Donetsk after capturing Luhansk;
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a tough weekend for Ukraine, Kyiv confirmed on Sunday that Russian forces have taken control of the city of Lysychansk, and by doing so, seized the entire Luhansk province.
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:45 am to Abstract Queso Dip
LINK
A pretty solid take on the situation from a Russian perspective. General take away is Russia needs to mobilize or its going to be a long couple of months for Russia.
A pretty solid take on the situation from a Russian perspective. General take away is Russia needs to mobilize or its going to be a long couple of months for Russia.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:47 am to PassingThrough
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is fairly obvious Trump Co was/is laundering money for Russian oligarchs as well as other players. The whole
It's fairly obvious that you're an idiot. Trump and Russia are just democratic lies
Posted on 7/4/22 at 6:48 am to PassingThrough
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is fairly obvious Trump Co was/is laundering money for Russian oligarchs as well as other players
How is that obvious? Please explain
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:18 am to Obtuse1
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IMO the pause this has to be giving China about its machinations with regard to Taiwan is of great benefit to the West. If the West is willing to give aid to Ukraine they have to know it would face at least a magnitude greater assistance from the West if Taiwan is invaded.
Just had a concerning thought, we’ve given all this to Ukraine including up to 1/3 of our javelins. Taiwan isn’t a tank based theater, but do we really have what we would need to give to support currently produced? Japan likely doesn’t have much relatively speaking. SK may, but would logically be concerned with NK in the midst of this. Western Europe won’t half help Ukraine, they’re not going to do much for Taiwan. What do we have left/what can we do quickly if we did need to help Taiwan repel a Chinese invasion?
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:20 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 4 July 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Ukrainian forces have withdrawn from Lysychansk, likely falling back to prepared defensive positions. Russia's Ministry of Defence had earlier claimed to have completed the encirclement of Lysychansk and secured full control of the city. Fighting in and around the city in Luhansk Oblast has intensified over the past week with Russian forces making steady progress.
The city was the last remaining major population centre in Luhansk Oblast under Ukrainian control. Russia's focus will now almost certainly switch to capturing Donetsk Oblast, a large portion of which remain under the control of Ukrainian forces. The fight for the Donbas has been grinding and attritional and this is highly unlikely to change in the coming weeks.
With harvest underway, Russia's invasion continues to have a devastating impact on Ukraine's agricultural sector. The war has caused major disruption to the supply chains of seed and fertiliser which Ukrainian farmers rely on, while Russia's blockade of Odesa continues to severely constrain Ukraine's grain exports. Because of this, Ukraine's agricultural exports in 2022 are unlikely to be more than 35% of the 2021 total.
Following its retreat from the Black Sea outpost of Snake Island, Russia misleadingly claimed that the ball is now in Ukraine's court' in relation to improving grain exports. In reality, it is Russia's disruption of Ukraine's agricultural sector which continues to exacerbate the global food crisis.
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UPDATE ON UKRAINE 4 July 2022
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Ukrainian forces have withdrawn from Lysychansk, likely falling back to prepared defensive positions. Russia's Ministry of Defence had earlier claimed to have completed the encirclement of Lysychansk and secured full control of the city. Fighting in and around the city in Luhansk Oblast has intensified over the past week with Russian forces making steady progress.
The city was the last remaining major population centre in Luhansk Oblast under Ukrainian control. Russia's focus will now almost certainly switch to capturing Donetsk Oblast, a large portion of which remain under the control of Ukrainian forces. The fight for the Donbas has been grinding and attritional and this is highly unlikely to change in the coming weeks.
With harvest underway, Russia's invasion continues to have a devastating impact on Ukraine's agricultural sector. The war has caused major disruption to the supply chains of seed and fertiliser which Ukrainian farmers rely on, while Russia's blockade of Odesa continues to severely constrain Ukraine's grain exports. Because of this, Ukraine's agricultural exports in 2022 are unlikely to be more than 35% of the 2021 total.
Following its retreat from the Black Sea outpost of Snake Island, Russia misleadingly claimed that the ball is now in Ukraine's court' in relation to improving grain exports. In reality, it is Russia's disruption of Ukraine's agricultural sector which continues to exacerbate the global food crisis.
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Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:20 am to DabosDynasty
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What do we have left/what can we do quickly if we did need to help Taiwan repel a Chinese invasion?
Half our politicians are owned by China so they probably won't do a damn thing.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 7:57 am to DabosDynasty
Taiwan is a tough nut to crack for many decades. It has long been dug in with fortified defensive position somewhat like the underground bunker at Azov Steel, but far more widespread. The question is whether or not CCP can land enough troops to overrun it like it did overrun coalition forces at the Yalu River. That is much more difficult by sea
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