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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:09 pm to LSUPilot07
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:09 pm to LSUPilot07
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Russian S-300 SAM that did a complete boomerang 180 and came back to destroy the battery that fired it? Funny shite right there.
Can you link? cant find it.
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:22 pm to Lakeboy7
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:29 pm to TigerDoc
Oh man that is hilarious. But, they did take out a missile battery.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:29 pm to TigerDoc
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The washing machine they stole the chip for the missile from was set to "spin".
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:38 pm to LSUPilot07
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Did anyone else see the Russian S-300 SAM that did a complete boomerang 180 and came back to destroy the battery that fired it? Funny shite right there.
Nevermind, should have read the rest of the thread.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:40 pm to CitizenK
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USA is not available to bail out Russia like in WWII with tanks, all of its trucks and jeeps, most of its ammo, artillery, boots, uniforms, rations fuel, factories and even refineries.
Why can't?
Already helping. First, the weapon goes to Ukraine, then they sell it through various platforms, such as AMAZON, etc.
Here is the exchange of Javelin and something else there for 10 boxes of canned food.
Normal and equal exchange
LINK
The present footage is not a new material as it comes from a recent report made by our troops and hasn't been given to the public before.
On the Popasnaya front, our men traded ten crates of canned food to the Ukrainian fighters for an American Javelin ATGM, a German Panzerfaust and two domestically made grenade launchers. It was a pretty fair trade-off.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 2:53 pm to RLDSC FAN
Senior Defense Officials Hold a Background Briefing, June 24, 2022
sample Q & A....
Q: Hello. Thank you. I have two questions. First, I wanted to know -- to speak about the HIMARS. Why only four? I understand that the first batch was four because you wanted to see how they were used and if the training would go well. So if it indeed went well, why only four? And my second question is about the gains that the Russians are making in Donbass. I understand that now they control around 20 percent of Ukraine. So I don't understand how you can say that it's really incremental because 20 percent, it's a lot.
SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Thank you, Sylvie. Are -- is that it, yes?
Q: Yes.
SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Okay. So on your first question about HIMARS, I think it's really important to think about HIMARS differently from how you would think about, say, the howitzers, the M777s that we've provided previously. The HIMARS enable standoff distance, but they also with the munitions that we're providing offer incredible precision. So this isn't about, you know, volume. It's about, you know, precise targeting.
So in addition to the fact that we wanted to, you know, introduce this system in a very thoughtful and very deliberate way with appropriate training, with an appropriate ability to have a feedback loop on how well the system is being introduced, there's also the fact that it's just a different kind of system.
And then the piece that I mentioned earlier is also really important. It's not just the U.S. We also have -- so you can't just look at the eight so far from the U.S. You have to also look at what the U.K. and Germany are doing so far. And there are other countries that are on the cusp of considering additional MLRS systems. So it's a larger effort than the U.S. piece.
In terms of the gains, you know, I don't want to ever minimize not just the percentage of territory, you know, but the loss of Ukrainian lives that we've seen from Russia. So in saying that Russia is making incremental gains, I'm certainly not minimizing the territory that they do hold and how significant that is to Ukraine and really to the world as a significant violation of sovereignty.
But that said, I think you have to compare what Russia -- the limited gains that Russia has achieved versus what Russia's original plan was because Russia's original plan was to have taken Kyiv by this point and to be thoroughly dominating Ukraine. And instead what we see is they have these gains around the edges and you have, you know, a fierce Ukraine that is fighting back with the world by its side. So in that sense it really is significantly less than what Russia intended.
DoD Transcript
sample Q & A....
Q: Hello. Thank you. I have two questions. First, I wanted to know -- to speak about the HIMARS. Why only four? I understand that the first batch was four because you wanted to see how they were used and if the training would go well. So if it indeed went well, why only four? And my second question is about the gains that the Russians are making in Donbass. I understand that now they control around 20 percent of Ukraine. So I don't understand how you can say that it's really incremental because 20 percent, it's a lot.
SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Thank you, Sylvie. Are -- is that it, yes?
Q: Yes.
SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Okay. So on your first question about HIMARS, I think it's really important to think about HIMARS differently from how you would think about, say, the howitzers, the M777s that we've provided previously. The HIMARS enable standoff distance, but they also with the munitions that we're providing offer incredible precision. So this isn't about, you know, volume. It's about, you know, precise targeting.
So in addition to the fact that we wanted to, you know, introduce this system in a very thoughtful and very deliberate way with appropriate training, with an appropriate ability to have a feedback loop on how well the system is being introduced, there's also the fact that it's just a different kind of system.
And then the piece that I mentioned earlier is also really important. It's not just the U.S. We also have -- so you can't just look at the eight so far from the U.S. You have to also look at what the U.K. and Germany are doing so far. And there are other countries that are on the cusp of considering additional MLRS systems. So it's a larger effort than the U.S. piece.
In terms of the gains, you know, I don't want to ever minimize not just the percentage of territory, you know, but the loss of Ukrainian lives that we've seen from Russia. So in saying that Russia is making incremental gains, I'm certainly not minimizing the territory that they do hold and how significant that is to Ukraine and really to the world as a significant violation of sovereignty.
But that said, I think you have to compare what Russia -- the limited gains that Russia has achieved versus what Russia's original plan was because Russia's original plan was to have taken Kyiv by this point and to be thoroughly dominating Ukraine. And instead what we see is they have these gains around the edges and you have, you know, a fierce Ukraine that is fighting back with the world by its side. So in that sense it really is significantly less than what Russia intended.
DoD Transcript
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:13 pm to cypher
quote:Retired Russian Major General Kanamat Botashev(63) was shot down in Luhansk and killed back in May. Hadn't flown in over 10 years according to some reports. Fair assessment.
The use of retired personnel, now working as Wagner contractors, to conduct close air support missions indicates that the Russian air force likely is struggling to support the invasion of Ukraine with sufficient aircrew. This is likely due to a combination of Russia's insufficient numbers of suitably trained personnel and its combat losses.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:23 pm to StormyMcMan
quote:Smoking cigarettes while fueling his car with petrol. Nothing to see here.
Another assassination in Kherson, this time Dmytro Savluchenko, a Ukrainian collaborating with Russia as part of the occupation authority was killed by a car bomb.
Glad that the will of the remaining people of Kherson hasn't been broken yet. Kherson & Melitipol corridor need to be priorities by any Ukrainian offensive.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 3:44 pm to ruff fish
Hey Ruff
I thought I had asked this several pages back but can't find it
Just curious on your take on these questions as the resident Russian. I won't argue with your replies (I may ask questions though) as I'm genuinely curious.
2) what would you consider victory for Russia?
3) Did you support the war at the start and do you now? Why or why not? If the answer is different, what changed your mind?
4) if needed, would your support a general mobilization? Why or why not?
5) do you think Russia made a mistake in not focusing solely on the Donbas?
I thought I had asked this several pages back but can't find it
Just curious on your take on these questions as the resident Russian. I won't argue with your replies (I may ask questions though) as I'm genuinely curious.
2) what would you consider victory for Russia?
3) Did you support the war at the start and do you now? Why or why not? If the answer is different, what changed your mind?
4) if needed, would your support a general mobilization? Why or why not?
5) do you think Russia made a mistake in not focusing solely on the Donbas?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:13 pm to cypher
The only reason to be there was to grind down the Russian military. The rail infrastructure is likely blown the heck up close to complete and sitting a few clicks away are hills overlooking the area where artillery could pound anything that moved.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:15 pm to Palmetto98
While showing that its military is a shiite show of a backwater nation. It's most advanced weapons have been getting blown up by foot soldiers. In a few months it will have to pull T-34s out of museums.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:24 pm to Mo Jeaux
My business partner is from England with family still there. The dark skinned immigrants are an issue in northern cities, in London its Eastern European with many actually being Russian. As he sees it service at restaurants and hotels if far better now than when all English labor.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:29 pm to RLDSC FAN
Belarus Hands Over Batch Of Ammunition To Russia
The Military Communications Directorate of the Republic of Belarus and the Central Military Communications Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation made an order to lease 100 covered wagons from the Belarusian Railway for the transportation of explosive materials (1st hazard class). The wagons are designed for loading and exporting ammunition from Belarus to the Russian Federation. This is stated on the ‘Community of Railway Workers of Belarus’ Telegram channel on Friday, June 24.
"At the moment, loading is carried out at many large artillery bases of weapons and ammunition. So, for example, today in military unit 67878 (this is the 46th arsenal of missiles and ammunition) in the village of Bronnaya Gora, loading work is underway. The volume of ammunition is so large that they cannot organize loading on their own and send servicemen from other units to help," it was reported.
After loading, a group of cars (6-10 units each) is sent to the stations of the Minsk railway junction, and already there they are "attached" to ordinary freight trains and sent along the route: Minsk - Orsha - junction. Krasnoye - Smolensk at the destination station in Russia.
Ukrainian News
The Military Communications Directorate of the Republic of Belarus and the Central Military Communications Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation made an order to lease 100 covered wagons from the Belarusian Railway for the transportation of explosive materials (1st hazard class). The wagons are designed for loading and exporting ammunition from Belarus to the Russian Federation. This is stated on the ‘Community of Railway Workers of Belarus’ Telegram channel on Friday, June 24.
"At the moment, loading is carried out at many large artillery bases of weapons and ammunition. So, for example, today in military unit 67878 (this is the 46th arsenal of missiles and ammunition) in the village of Bronnaya Gora, loading work is underway. The volume of ammunition is so large that they cannot organize loading on their own and send servicemen from other units to help," it was reported.
After loading, a group of cars (6-10 units each) is sent to the stations of the Minsk railway junction, and already there they are "attached" to ordinary freight trains and sent along the route: Minsk - Orsha - junction. Krasnoye - Smolensk at the destination station in Russia.
Ukrainian News
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:33 pm to LSUPilot07
quote:Macron has called for the world to not humiliate Russia. They've done enough themselves.
Did anyone else see the Russian S-300 SAM that did a complete boomerang 180 and came back to destroy the battery that fired it? Funny shite right there.
Ukrainian farmers towing tens of millions in tanks/ missile systems, losing the Battle of Kyiv, soldiers looting & stealing everything from Goats to toilets, defective equipment & supply chains, etc....
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:39 pm to CitizenK
quote:
The only reason to be there was to grind down the Russian military. The rail infrastructure is likely blown the heck up close to complete and sitting a few clicks away are hills overlooking the area where artillery could pound anything that moved.
Weewee posted this almost 1 month ago
quote:
The UAF's goal is to kill 20,000 Russians in Severodonetsk and from what I am hearing and reading the Russians seems to be complying.
Doubt the KIA is anything close to that high, but the tactic was known way back in May
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:40 pm to CitizenK
quote:
While showing that its military is a shiite show of a backwater nation. It's most advanced weapons have been getting blown up by foot soldiers. In a few months it will have to pull T-34s out of museums.
That is not being fair to Russia at all. When they run out of their T-64's, they can still break out the T-55's.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:42 pm to cypher
quote:
Belarus Hands Over Batch Of Ammunition To Russia
Assuming this is true, sounds like Russia is starting to have ammo issues
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:54 pm to StormyMcMan
quote:
Assuming this is true, sounds like Russia is starting to have ammo issues
I agree. Several sources are referring to the same Telegram info. The link below has more detail including a map of the train route.
Defense industry of Ukraine
Posted on 6/24/22 at 4:57 pm to StormyMcMan
It could well be due reinforcements had to arrive via clear flat ground within artillery range. The far edge of the city is just within range of T-72 shells considering height of the hills, not accurate but just within range
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