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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/10/22 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45766 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 3:38 pm to
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Ukrainian girls are best.


That is the first true thing you have posted in years.

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Russian history was fascinating.


That is the second true thing that you have posted in years.

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Ukraine didn't really have great museums and documentation of their history except for the churches.


That is because everything in Ukraine either evacuated by the Soviets in 1941, destroyed or stolen by the Germans in WW2. The same thing is true about Belarus and the Baltic states. Only the churches survived.

Speaking of history.
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In response to the plans of the Russian Parliament to revoke Russia’s recognition of Lithuania’s Declaration of Independence from the USSR in 1991, the Kyiv City Council has cancelled the decree by Kyiv Rus Grand Prince Volodymyr of the founding of Moscow in 1147. Moscow is gone

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This post was edited on 6/10/22 at 3:41 pm
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5996 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 3:52 pm to
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Let me make it perfectly clear both Russia and Ukraine suck and I hope they both lose.


The problem with this sentiment is the “they” you want to lose isn’t the “they” that is dying and seeing their entire lives destroyed.

Seeing this event unfold and saying good Ukraine is awful and deserves this is analogous to seeing 1,000,000 folks in southern Ohio and eastern Kentucky bombed out of their homes and towns and saying “great serves those corrupt fat cats right for invading Iraq, spying on the world, fueling the drug trade and getting rich selling weapons to everyone.”
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5754 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:08 pm to
The invaders` 152-mm D-20 howitzer exploded

pretty cool pics...

Defense industry of Ukraine
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8190 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:25 pm to
I was in Lepzig Germany not long after the wall came down. Very ugly and depressing as you said.

St. Thomas Church, where Bach played and is buried, and the Christmas market were the only things I really remember.
Posted by Mr Happy
Member since May 2019
2748 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:31 pm to
Below is a link detailing Ukraine's arms inventory.

Ukraine General Staff updated on delivery of Western weapons systems.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:34 pm to
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These aren't "my numbers". They show 49% in the Donbas not only do not "hate" Russia, they want to actively join Russia.

Again my only point is that there is not a "long-standing hatred of Russia" in the region. Stop dropping your IQ by letting propaganda get shoved down your throat.


No, you are 100% wrong.

I literally posted links from 20 and 15 years ago, documenting the actions of the Russians who have been laying the foundation for this invasion.

You posted one single poll that was a snapshot in time. A time after which Russia's actions have resulted in a demographic shift in their favor so that they could better justify their invasion. You are being duped. Apply some reason to your analysis.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Mo Jeaux


Dumbass.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:37 pm to
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I'm glad both countries are taking losses. Hope they both lose.


I'm ok with this, other than the world needs Ukrainian wheat. I have no LOVE for either. I do support Ukraine 100% in it's resistance to capitulation to the USSR.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:39 pm to
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Below is a link detailing Ukraine's arms inventory.
Demilitarisation of Ukraine isn't going as Russia had planned.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5754 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:39 pm to
Good info. MLRS seems to be the main deficiency.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:39 pm to
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Ukraine didn't really have great museums and documentation of their history except for the churches.


Why do you think this is? Why might Russian history be extoled and praised and Ukrainian history be hard to locate? Could it be the typical result of Russian domination?....
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:43 pm to
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I've been to both Ukraine and Russia, mates. Have also fricked Ukrainian, Russian, and Belarusian chicas for good measure

St Petersburg easily the best city in any of these countries.

Kiev was a huge disappointment. Except for like 8 Square blocks it was very Eastern bloc and ugly / depressing as shite. Thank God for Wladimir Klitschko's Marriott bannered 4.5 star hotel - it made the place seem a bit more civilised at the end of the day.

Yeah, none of this ever happened.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:44 pm to
I took a train from Darmstadt Germany through the former East Germany. Stayed overnight in Dresden, then continued on to Prague. There was STILL a stark contrast between East and West Germany and also Czech Republic.

It was stark. The border crossing was eye opening. They stopped the train, checked our papers and had dogs with them (through first class).
Posted by Palmetto98
Where the stars are big and bright
Member since Nov 2021
2145 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:46 pm to
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Why do you think this is? Why might Russian history be extoled and praised and Ukrainian history be hard to locate? Could it be the typical result of Russian domination?....


Why do you have such a hard on for Ukraine?
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 5:47 pm to
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Why might Russian history be extoled and praised and Ukrainian history be hard to locate? Could it be the typical result of Russian domination?....
This war has served as a great awakening to Ukrainians who have had their culture historically suppressed or bastardized by Russia. Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky, Catherine the Great & other Russian names/monuments are being replaced ( also Soviets) with Ukrainians `& their allies. They call it a "Decolonizatiion" of Ukraine. Indifference and acceptance of Russian influence there is dwindling.

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Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:10 pm to
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Multiple reports of Ukrainian advance in Zaporizhia direction of over several kilometres in certain places.
Specifics are not given due to OPSEC
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64335 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:15 pm to
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They call it a "Decolonizatiion" of Ukraine.


And the Times article compares it to removing confederate statues here in the states. This thread is the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64335 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:16 pm to
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Why do you think this is? Why might Russian history be extoled and praised and Ukrainian history be hard to locate? Could it be the typical result of Russian domination?....


Tear down those statues, Sid!
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:16 pm to
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bastardized by Russia. Tolstoy, Tchaikovsky, Catherine the Great & other Russian names/monuments are being replaced


So they’re going to melt down the statue of Catherine the Great in Odessa? The city she founded?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4692 posts
Posted on 6/10/22 at 6:20 pm to
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In response to the plans of the Russian Parliament to revoke Russia’s recognition of Lithuania’s Declaration of Independence from the USSR in 1991, the Kyiv City Council has cancelled the decree by Kyiv Rus Grand Prince Volodymyr of the founding of Moscow in 1147.

Moscow is gone LINK
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