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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:27 am to
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:27 am to
Two things that struck me about that video. First , the obliteration of the vehicles! Dang. Second, there is simply no way to survive with that amount of wood flying through the air! Never mind the steel, the dang wood from the trees would kill everyone ! I got hit in the head with a little 2 inch thick Mayhaw limb last week and it almost knocked me out. Those things would be going through people.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8193 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:29 am to
Russia firing commanders
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1527286819871567880

quote:

No surprise regarding Kisel, the 1st Tank Army's 2nd Motorized Rifle Division and 4th Tank Division performed very poorly at the beginning of the war and were responsible for many of the abandoned tanks and vehicles.




Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5182 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 9:51 am to
Regarding Russian war crimes, I'm sure you all have seen the video of the 21-year-old Russian soldier pleading guilty to shooting an elderly, unarmed Ukrainian citizen.

I'm admittedly ignorant to this, but my questions are:

(1) How does the Ukrainian officials know this particular soldier committed said war crime; and
(2) How does Ukraine police (or army) capture and arrest the soldier?
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:03 am to
They’re learning from their mistakes, and finding who the actual leaders are. We fired a lot of generals in WW2.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:04 am to
The Ukrainians say they had video of it. He pled guilty, says he was told to by other soldiers he was with to kill a 62 year-old guy on a bike in fear of the guy calling in their position to the Ukrainians. They had stolen a car. Sounds like they were totally undisciplined and he panicked, probably hadn't been trained and prepared for what he was asked to do. A rotten military.

This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 10:25 am
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:16 am to
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 10:26 am
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:26 am to
quote:

(1) How does the Ukrainian officials know this particular soldier committed said war crime; and
(2) How does Ukraine police (or army) capture and arrest the soldier?
Because these cowards tank column was under attack/ destroyed and they fled on foot. Carjacked a Jetta & tried to escape before they were finally captured & surrendered.


Alleged that he & his fellow soldiers thought that the 62 year old man( on his cellphone) & pushing his bike may have been calling the Ukrainian authorities. I believe these scumbags enjoy "hunting" civilians
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:36 am to
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Mass Russian Shelling and Missile Strikes are taking place on Ukrainian Frontline/Border Positions in the Kharkiv, Sumy, Chernihiv, and Mykolaiv Regions most likely in preparation for renewed Offensive Operations in these areas.


quote:

Offensives in these Regions don’t necessarily mean Large-Scale Offensives, the pushes into areas like Chernihiv and Sumy will likely just be used to divert Ukraine Forces away from the Frontlines in the Southeast, primary the Donbas Region.


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Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Most of the same people would still be cheering for Russia even if Trump were President. It has more to do with their underlying views on Jews, African Americans and Hispanics than who is President IMO. Been noticing this for years.




disagree. its almost 100% my side isnt in, so i cant acknowledge the other side does anything good.

im opposite side of the political spectrum as you and many you are talking about are actually much much closer to you then i am. If you really think with many on the right its a race thing then you are retarded, even more so then those you accuse. Your view is exactly why we are so far apart on so many things.

there are also some that just dont like spending money or getting involved in any foreign conflict. 99% of the time i am in that camp as are many in this thread. Difference is this time, we are getting a ROI on our spending in the form of getting china to back the frick off, expansion of our allies, and a weakening of russia without a single American soldier lost.

So before you start accusing people who may disagree with you of being a racsist....maybe slow down and think.

and its funny cause if trump was in place you would be the same way many of them are and you were when he was in office and failed to acknowledge any thing he did well, just like many of the fricking retards on the poliboard are doing now.

different sides of the same coin

now back to the actual war and kicking Russias arse :cheers:
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8193 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:49 am to
If you don't care about Twitter, ignore this.

For those interested in following the war via Twitter, it can be time-consuming to visit all the different Twitter feeds. I use a chrome addon called TweetDeck that allows you to view multiple feeds simultaneously. More importantly, it will allow you to view Twitter lists.

A Twitter list is a list you create and add users you want to follow. Then you can just view the list to see all the posts from those users in one spot.

This is what my tweet deck looks like


This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 10:52 am
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25093 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:50 am to
What ever happened to the second main cruiser (or destroyer) the U's "might" have sunk? Was it ever confirmed to have sunk, or has it been sighted again?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105564 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:55 am to
The logistics ship that was supposedly hit has been sighted apparently undamaged. I haven't heard anything one way or the other about the frigate.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 10:56 am to
She was sighted intact.

It seems a Ukrainian MP claimed it had been hit, but Arestovych later claimed that had been a misunderstanding, that they'd hit a landing craft near Snake Island.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 11:04 am
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8193 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:09 am to
I saw several reports and pictures yesterday of a Russian Panstir SAM sitting on the deck of the logistics ship to give it some AA capability

https://twitter.com/GrangerE04117/status/1526919769848328192

quote:

A satellite imagery of Snake Island last May 13 shows only one ship sailing close to the island.

That ship is Vsevolod Bobrov with a Pantsir-S1 at the back of the ship.

What is surprising is that the position of the Panstir at the back suggest it is for the ship's protection




Look to the left, you can see it sitting on the back of the boat.



Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Most of the same people would still be cheering for Russia even if Trump were President. It has more to do with their underlying views on Jews, African Americans and Hispanics than who is President IMO. Been noticing this for years.




While I agree some would do as you say, I do not believe it is MOST. Hope not anyway.

ETA: and your past actions indicate you may be no better than them in regards to hyper-partisan pandering.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 11:52 am
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11918 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

86-11, Senate passes the $40 billion Ukraine aid package.

It has already cleared the House and now goes to @POTUS's desk.


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This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

#Ukraine: An interesting UA BMP-2K was captured by Chechen forces in Luhansk Oblast- it previously belonged to the military department of Chernivtsi University and was used for study purposes. Its appearance at the front likely indicates problems with the mechanization of troops.


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Not sure if that's the whole story reading the comments. Might have been that Ukraine actually used it at the start of the war and it was captured.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41393 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Most of the same people would still be cheering for Russia even if Trump were President. It has more to do with their underlying views on Jews, African Americans and Hispanics than who is President IMO. Been noticing this for years.


Yes, because not wholeheartedly supporting a regime so corrupt it would make New Orleans blush that also contains military units LITERALLY DISPLAYING NAZI INSIGNIA AND SYMBOLS automatically makes one an anti-Semite. Really???

You didn't think this through, did you?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

According to a UA telegram the Russian armored train has been neutralized




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Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

#Biden will sign an executive order today allocating an additional $100 million in aid to #Ukraine

In addition, the U.S. is actively working to organize the supply of long-range anti-ship missiles to Ukraine to lift the blockade of the Black Sea - Reuters, citing U.S. officials.


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