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Lakes Mead, Powell May Not Refill ‘In Our Lifetimes’
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:11 am
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:11 am
The regions that depend on those lakes as a water source have grown so far beyond what they were ever expected to be. Kudos to those regions for figuring out the economic miracle. But this all occurred without viable sources of fresh drinking water long term.
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The snowpack in the Sierra Nevada is the deepest it’s been in decades, but those storms that were a boon for Northern California won’t make much of a dent in the long-term water shortage for the Colorado River Basin — an essential source of supplies for Southern California.
In fact, the recent storms haven’t changed a view shared by many Southern California water managers: Don’t expect lakes Mead and Powell, the nation’s largest reservoirs, to fill up again anytime soon.
“To think that these things would ever refill requires some kind of leap of faith that I, for one, don’t have,” said Brad Udall, a water and climate scientist at Colorado State University.
Lake Mead, located on the Arizona-Nevada border and held back by Hoover Dam, filled in the 1980s and 1990s. In 2000, it was nearly full and lapping at the spillway gates. But the megadrought over the last 23 years — the most severe in centuries — has worsened the water deficit and left Lake Mead about 70% empty.
Upstream, Lake Powell has declined to just 23% of full capacity and is approaching a point where Glen Canyon Dam would no longer generate power.
Even with this winter’s above-average snowpack in the Rocky Mountains, water officials and scientists say everyone in the Colorado River Basin will need to plan for low reservoir levels for years to come. And some say they think the river’s major reservoirs probably won’t refill in our lifetimes.
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“They’re not going to refill. The only reason they filled the first time is because there wasn’t demand for the water. In the 1950s, ’60s, ’70s and ’80s, there was no Central Arizona Project, there was no Southern Nevada Water Authority, there was not nearly as much use in the Upper [Colorado River] Basin,” said Bill Hasencamp, manager of Colorado River resources for the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California. “So the water use was low. So that filled up storage.”
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Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:14 am to goofball
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The snowpack in the Sierra Nevada is the deepest it’s been in decades,
Impossible. I was told climate change would eliminate snow in the Sierra Nevada.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:14 am to goofball
They captured less than 20% of The historic rainfall the region just experienced. No sympathy for these clowns
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:15 am to goofball
Raiders headed back to Oakland!
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:16 am to goofball
With the growth of Vegas and Southern California I’m surprised there is any water in Lake Mead.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:17 am to goofball
This is solely due to the leadership of the state of California and their failed policies. There is no reason for droughts or issues with demand for water. Yet, California continues to put itself in this situation because it only listens to environmental wackjobs.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:17 am to goofball
Remember this next time these coastal elites say that cities in the Mississippi delta, gulf coast, or in the tornado belt shouldn't exist because of the weather.
A lot of those people live in places like southern California or New York City - both of which relies on water supplies from far outside of their jurisdiction.
A lot of those people live in places like southern California or New York City - both of which relies on water supplies from far outside of their jurisdiction.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:17 am to goofball
Here's an idea, slow the rate of draining Lake Mead.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:18 am to DCtiger1
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They captured less than 20% of The historic rainfall the region just experienced. No sympathy for these clowns
and they will not build additional desalination plants.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:18 am to goofball
Who could have guessed building major cities in and farming millions of acres on deserts could have had an effect of water availability?
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:20 am to DCtiger1
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They captured less than 20% of The historic rainfall the region just experienced. No sympathy for these clowns
Can’t be said enough.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:20 am to Northshoretiger87
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This is solely due to the leadership of the state of California and their failed policies. There is no reason for droughts or issues with demand for water. Yet, California continues to put itself in this situation because it only listens to environmental wackjobs.
Don't get me started.
You can't be completely naturalist and not have the hills light up on fire every now and then. They need more controlled burns and careful trimming/cutting of those forests. Yet they are curtailing that out of environmental concerns, ignoring how much crap gets put in the air every time they have a major forest fire (not to mention the danger to life and property).
And I can't complain much more than that. Louisiana has failed miserably when it comes to resource management and regional infrastructure projects. We can't even get the Darlington reservoir built. We still have people putting up dams along their parish line during flooding because we can't actually build a permanent solution to anything.
This post was edited on 2/6/23 at 10:22 am
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:21 am to WPBTiger
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and they will not build additional desalination plants.
Costs of living there is going to skyrocket when they have to pipe in water from Oregon or northern California.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:22 am to goofball
People in California want all this.
Just think, if you currently own your home outright in California or are independently wealthy with all that almost year-round beautiful weather and beautiful terrain, wouldn't you want to make it much more expensive to keep the population down?
Just think, if you currently own your home outright in California or are independently wealthy with all that almost year-round beautiful weather and beautiful terrain, wouldn't you want to make it much more expensive to keep the population down?
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:22 am to goofball
Can’t California people just drink like Fiji water instead?
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:23 am to WPBTiger
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and they will not build additional desalination plants.
There is this gigantic body of fricking water to their west yet they won't use it.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:24 am to goofball
Maybe God doesn't want them full.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:24 am to WPBTiger
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and they will not build additional desalination plants.
Because they want this. They want more expensive resources. They want to discourage people from moving to California.
Posted on 2/6/23 at 10:25 am to goofball
Is it "carbon-driven" climate change or is it the 10s of millions of people drinking that water that weren't drinking it 100 years ago?
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