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re: LA State Rep. Chuck Owen (R-Rosepine): Time For A Fundamental Debate On Carbon Capture
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:11 pm to JohnnyBgood
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:11 pm to JohnnyBgood
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DRAX pumps millions into the US economy, and provides good paying jobs, both directly and indirectly. Not to mention their North American HQ is in Monroe. Say what you want about biomass, but it’s just another piece of the global energy supply.
I didn’t say anything to the contrary. I simply pointed out the hilarious fact that they tout “green energy” that they have to fetch from across the globe using diesel power.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:21 pm to beerJeep
No doubt that no energy is really clean. It’s all a money grab as long as taxpayers are footing the bill. Bagasse is the “next big thing” once they figure out how to turn them into pellets and produce on a large scale.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:24 pm to ragincajun03
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The idea of burying industrial waste on a mass scale needs to be something our citizens get to decide
There are already injection wells all over the state and local municipalities have little to no say in them. And O&G produced water is much, much more polluted than anything related to CCS.
This post was edited on 7/12/25 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:25 pm to Odysseus32
quote:Thats the lie. You say we have so many salt of the earth people, nah, we have a great big mass of uneducated, religious simpletons. Just cause you say sir and mam, don’t amount to a hill of beans in helping develop this state. Good part is if you realize this, and put on a show sometimes, you can navigate it fairly easy.
For as many salt of the earth people we have here we sure don’t like to work to make our communities better.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:28 pm to ragincajun03
Carbon capture is only feasible if the Government subsidizes 70 to 80 percent of the bill. The energy usage just to get it into the ground is almost as much as powering an AI datacenter. It's stupid and should be forgotten.
As someone said before this post, plant more trees.
As someone said before this post, plant more trees.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:33 pm to Dixie2023
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I’m thinking health? You don’t think harmful? And I ld read we will be subsidizing the Meta and our electricity bills will increase? Then I read we may not have to?
Bruh how is a data center harmful to your health? It’s a giant server room. It’s just computer equipment
Of course we will offer tax incentives to Meta to win the deal. You do that for the first few, but you still make way more money by bringing them in than you would by having nothing there. Then when Meta is successful you win more of those types of deals with less incentives needed
Posted on 7/12/25 at 5:38 pm to ragincajun03
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LA State Rep. Chuck Owen (R-Rosepine)
I’d like to hear Ethan Frey’s thoughts on it.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 6:56 pm to ragincajun03
Captain Chuck Owen was the Commandant of Cadets when I started AFROTC at LSU in Fall 95.
Posted on 7/12/25 at 9:13 pm to lurkr
quote:Well this is a wildly stupid take. How on gods green earth do you think a couple big compressors and pumps uses as much power as an AI datacenter, which required whole power plants to be built in order to operate
The energy usage just to get it into the ground is almost as much as powering an AI datacenter.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:06 am to Upperdecker
“ You can look up the research on this and results from existing sequestration sites”
I don’t know where you are getting your information but there has only been
one sequestration site so far and that is in Decatur Illinois.There are numerous sites being permitted all over the country but the one and only site for sequestration so far,is in Illinois.
The only other CO2 being pumped into the ground otherwise is for enhanced oil recovery.
Back to Illinois,the EPA chose the site in Decatur because of the Mt.Simon Sandstone,”a deep saline formation of porous rock especially suitable for CO2 storage.”
Guess what,it started leaking CO2 in short order,not once but two leaks.What’ s really concerning is that only a fraction of the CO2 that was projected to be pumped in the ground was actually injected.So much for the “experts”.Then to add insult to injury the leaks weren’t reported to the EPA for several months by the entity monitoring the well (ADM).
I went to the presentation by the “scientists” and PhD’s from LSU touting the sandstone formations in Vernon parish as ideal for CO2 sequestration.
Of course,they didn’t mention what had happened in Illinois.Didn’t stop them from trying to assure the attendees that they were sure it was an ideal location,and they were confident it wouldn’t leak and was entirely safe.
I have been to two presentations by Brad LeBlanc,geologist and owner Bradford Minerals and senior geoscientist for Sweet Lake Land and Oil.
He is very much against CO2 sequestration,he says it’s not a matter of if the CO2 is going to leak,it’s a matter of when and it presents a very real danger to the aquifers from which a large portion of the state gets their water.
Nobody is paying him to give these presentations unlike the LSU hacks who are,no doubt ,getting paid by Exxon to push this scam.
Who do think I trust ?
The info I posted about the experience in Decatur Illinois is from Yale Climate Connections.org.
A Google,search will come up with other articles,about the experience in Illinois.
I don’t know where you are getting your information but there has only been
one sequestration site so far and that is in Decatur Illinois.There are numerous sites being permitted all over the country but the one and only site for sequestration so far,is in Illinois.
The only other CO2 being pumped into the ground otherwise is for enhanced oil recovery.
Back to Illinois,the EPA chose the site in Decatur because of the Mt.Simon Sandstone,”a deep saline formation of porous rock especially suitable for CO2 storage.”
Guess what,it started leaking CO2 in short order,not once but two leaks.What’ s really concerning is that only a fraction of the CO2 that was projected to be pumped in the ground was actually injected.So much for the “experts”.Then to add insult to injury the leaks weren’t reported to the EPA for several months by the entity monitoring the well (ADM).
I went to the presentation by the “scientists” and PhD’s from LSU touting the sandstone formations in Vernon parish as ideal for CO2 sequestration.
Of course,they didn’t mention what had happened in Illinois.Didn’t stop them from trying to assure the attendees that they were sure it was an ideal location,and they were confident it wouldn’t leak and was entirely safe.
I have been to two presentations by Brad LeBlanc,geologist and owner Bradford Minerals and senior geoscientist for Sweet Lake Land and Oil.
He is very much against CO2 sequestration,he says it’s not a matter of if the CO2 is going to leak,it’s a matter of when and it presents a very real danger to the aquifers from which a large portion of the state gets their water.
Nobody is paying him to give these presentations unlike the LSU hacks who are,no doubt ,getting paid by Exxon to push this scam.
Who do think I trust ?
The info I posted about the experience in Decatur Illinois is from Yale Climate Connections.org.
A Google,search will come up with other articles,about the experience in Illinois.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 12:16 am to KamaCausey_LSU
“There are already injection wells all over the state”
That’s true,the difference is the O&G polluted water is not pressurized like liquified CO2.
That’s true,the difference is the O&G polluted water is not pressurized like liquified CO2.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 6:48 am to LSUA 75
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but there has only been one sequestration site so far and that is in Decatur Illinois.There are numerous sites being permitted all over the country but the one and only site for sequestration so far,is in Illinois. The only other CO2 being pumped into the ground otherwise is for enhanced oil recovery.
EOR counts for this too. You’re still injecting CO2 into the ground. And the Decatur site has been operational over 15 years, so there’s plenty of data from it
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Guess what,it started leaking CO2 in short order,not once but two leaks.What’ s really concerning is that only a fraction of the CO2 that was projected to be pumped in the ground was actually injected.
The leaks are from a monitoring well with incorrect materials, not from the main injection well, nor any of the original wells. The leaks also caused no problems with the water table
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I have been to two presentations by Brad LeBlanc,geologist and owner Bradford Minerals and senior geoscientist for Sweet Lake Land and Oil. He is very much against CO2 sequestration
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Nobody is paying him
The dude makes money buying mineral rights and leasing them to O&G exploration. Carbon capture directly conflicts with his business model. Areas that have carbon sequestration will likely be passed over by O&G due to the added complexity. And he’ll be left with the bag of unusable mineral rights. He’s not just doing multiple presentations bc he’s a good guy, he’s got skin in the game too.
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The info I posted about the experience in Decatur Illinois is from Yale Climate Connections.org.
An extremely biased article written by a hard left climate website, and reposted on the site you found it on. There are other articles that are less obviously biased and give a better representation of the facts
Posted on 7/13/25 at 6:52 am to ragincajun03
It's gone from "let's try to be better about using resources that use and abuse the planet less" to full dogmatic religious experience in like 50 years. We tax ourselves to death to use renewable resources that are trucked using non-renewable resources, all while buying the next shitty Chinese plastic utensil from Amazon. It's so illogical.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:15 am to Upperdecker
“The leaks are from a monitoring well with incorrect materials,not from the main injection well.”
What the hell difference does that make?That’s a stupid argument anyway.Obviously monitoring instruments can’t be placed on an injection well.
Monitoring wells are there to detect leaks,which they did.Leaks that were not supposed to occur according to the “scientists”.
The whole issue boils down to the potential ruination of aquifers.Where is Vernon parish going to get water if their aquifer is ruined.There is a proposed injection well close to Grant parish boundary,same aquifer where Grant parish,where I live, gets their water.What are we going to do if the aquifer is ruined?
The “scientists” say the Co2 wells are not going to
What the hell difference does that make?That’s a stupid argument anyway.Obviously monitoring instruments can’t be placed on an injection well.
Monitoring wells are there to detect leaks,which they did.Leaks that were not supposed to occur according to the “scientists”.
The whole issue boils down to the potential ruination of aquifers.Where is Vernon parish going to get water if their aquifer is ruined.There is a proposed injection well close to Grant parish boundary,same aquifer where Grant parish,where I live, gets their water.What are we going to do if the aquifer is ruined?
The “scientists” say the Co2 wells are not going to
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:30 am to Upperdecker
“The leaks are from a monitoring well with incorrect materials,not from the main injection well.”
What the hell difference does that make?That’s a stupid argument anyway.Obviously monitoring instruments can’t be placed on an injection well.
Monitoring wells are there to detect leaks,which they did.Leaks that were not supposed to occur according to the “scientists”.
The whole issue boils down to the potential ruination of aquifers.Where is Vernon parish going to get water if their aquifer is ruined.There is a proposed injection well close to Grant parish boundary,same aquifer where Grant parish,where I live, gets their water.What are we going to do if the aquifer is ruined?
The “scientists” say the Co2 wells are not going to leak.The “scientists” are being paid by oil companies which are going to recieve revenue from the government (taxpayers).On the other side,there are groups that believe the risks out weigh the potential benefits.Of course they are going to advocate for their side of the issue.
Scientists can be bought and often are.Good example is the infamous “Sugar Study” conducted by LSU Pennington Research Center paid for by Coca-Cola.Results were that sugar had nothing to do with obesity,rather it was just a lack of exercise.
Who believes that?
A correlation can be found with the Covid vaccination scam.”Scientists” such as Fauci assured the population that people
that took the vaccine wouldn’t get Covid or transmit it to others.
To question the vaccine was anti- science. How did that work out?
What the hell difference does that make?That’s a stupid argument anyway.Obviously monitoring instruments can’t be placed on an injection well.
Monitoring wells are there to detect leaks,which they did.Leaks that were not supposed to occur according to the “scientists”.
The whole issue boils down to the potential ruination of aquifers.Where is Vernon parish going to get water if their aquifer is ruined.There is a proposed injection well close to Grant parish boundary,same aquifer where Grant parish,where I live, gets their water.What are we going to do if the aquifer is ruined?
The “scientists” say the Co2 wells are not going to leak.The “scientists” are being paid by oil companies which are going to recieve revenue from the government (taxpayers).On the other side,there are groups that believe the risks out weigh the potential benefits.Of course they are going to advocate for their side of the issue.
Scientists can be bought and often are.Good example is the infamous “Sugar Study” conducted by LSU Pennington Research Center paid for by Coca-Cola.Results were that sugar had nothing to do with obesity,rather it was just a lack of exercise.
Who believes that?
A correlation can be found with the Covid vaccination scam.”Scientists” such as Fauci assured the population that people
that took the vaccine wouldn’t get Covid or transmit it to others.
To question the vaccine was anti- science. How did that work out?
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:32 am to Upperdecker
If it’s such a great idea remove the government funding and payouts for the artificial carbon removal. Let it stand on its own.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:44 am to Upperdecker
Someone appears to have a bit of knowledge on this.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 8:47 am to NCaddoTigerfan
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If it’s such a great idea remove the government funding and payouts for the artificial carbon removal. Let it stand on its own.
I’ll say this.
Do I believe CCSU is dumb and a waste of taxpayer dollars? Absolutely.
However, I do think there is way too much fear mongering regarding the technical safety of the process. Companies like Exxon, Occidental, and Total know what they’re doing when it comes to handling CO2 and pushing it into the ground. It’s a process that has been done for decades. I would be wary of the flight by night LLCs that pop up saying they can do this, though.
Posted on 7/13/25 at 9:25 am to ragincajun03
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Someone appears to have a bit of knowledge on this.
Gemini bruh
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