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re: LA Public School scores are out

Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:30 pm to
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:30 pm to
Remind me to never visit Caddo Parish
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:32 pm to
Hold it. Let get this straight--NOBODY has to take vouchers.

Also they are only giving them to kids of failing public schools. They are behind when they leave. You can't take a 7th graders from a failing public school and send him to the 8th grade in a private school and expect him in one year to score like the rest of the students.

Why aren't they closing those D and F government schools they FORCE families to use?

What pisses you people off the most is that PARENTS want these vouchers.

Typical of the education bureaucracy you ignore the whole story:

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The grades for scholarship schools are based only on the scholarship student’s scores.


They are not even testing the entire school just the kids that came from failing government schools.

DeVoss is right in video--the Louisiana system of vouches is lacking--IT IS LACKNG BECAUSE VOUCHERS ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO ALL FAMILIES and all schools are not available to all students.
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
2724 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:38 pm to
You can throw a trillion dollars a year at public schools and nothing will change. Sure, they might have better facilities and what not, but the parents are still going to be the parents when the kid comes home. Parents that don't care = kids who don't care.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
5057 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:46 pm to
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However those are hard to get on a school by school basis because the test contract is between the child and the company, not the school.



ACT scores of every public school in Louisiana
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10097 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:58 pm to
You cannot send these kids to school for 7 hours a day and then send them home for the other 17 hours and expect that to fix the problem. The problem resides at home and they have to fix themselves. Giving more money to schools won't fix the problem but it could help some, maybe.
I know your post was scarcasm, just wanted to get my 2cents in. Sad, really.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
19134 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:02 pm to
I just received an email from the principal:

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We are SO VERY PROUD to announce that Prairieville Middle School has grown yet another year. Our overall school performance score is 110.8!


We are once again an A rated school and the number 1 school and middle school in the district. The only middle schools in the state scoring higher than us were selective entry schools.

Highlights and Trends:
? Ranked #1 middle school in Ascension parish
? Ranked #1 SCHOOL in Ascension parish
? Ranked #1 middle school in the state with non-selective entry
? 76% of our students scored Mastery and above on LEAP
? Top Gains and Equity Honoree two years in a row


Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:09 pm to
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It is really remarkable how well Orleans Parish is doing since they got rid of government run schools.


It's a good situation. Charter schools have a lot of freedom, but if they don't perform, they are shut down.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:11 pm to
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ACT scores of every public school in Louisiana


LA requires each kid to take it at school. That's only once. The kid may take it other times and get better scores.

And how do you compare it to Texas?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:15 pm to
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Hold it. Let get this straight--NOBODY has to take vouchers


Correct. The schools that seem to take them are the ones that are struggling to convince parents that they are good enough to justify paying tuition.

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You can't take a 7th graders from a failing public school and send him to the 8th grade in a private school and expect him in one year to score like the rest of the students.


No, but I expect him to score better than the school in which he came from.

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Why aren't they closing those D and F government schools they FORCE families to use?


D isn't failing. If a school gets an F four times, it gets moved to the RSD, which is basically a takeover, or it gets shut down. 4 years is probably too long. I'd like to see that go to 2 years.

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What pisses you people off the most is that PARENTS want these vouchers


I support anyone that wants to move their kid out of a bad school. However, moving them to a private school that is just as bad, if not worse, with MY and YOUR tax dollars, isn't the answer.

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They are not even testing the entire school just the kids that came from failing government schools.


That was a huge mistake.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53053 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:26 pm to
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LA requires each kid to take it at school.

This is dumb. There are plenty of kids that have no intention of going on to any kind of secondary education. Why lower the average score for the entire school?
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
24551 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:31 pm to
Where can I find the racial makeup of the schools on that list.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:35 pm to
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Where can I find the racial makeup of the schools on that list.


Greatschools.org has that information

Also, the state report cards usually have it as well, but it looks like they haven't loaded that information in yet for the past school year (which the grades are based off of).
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77956 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:41 pm to
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So much hype about Zachary schools,
There's only one or two schools in the district. Others have a dozen or more.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77956 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:48 pm to
He's not talking about half-assed private/Catholic schools and you know it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:58 pm to
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He's not talking about half-assed private/Catholic schools and you know it.


I don't know what IB is talking about.

I can tell you that the high performing private/Catholic schools use "means to pay" as a filter. There's a reason why Catholic High, Jesuit, etc don't accept vouchers.
Posted by rondo
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 4:01 pm to
Fontainebleau representing
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 4:05 pm to
I think that the unfortunate truth is that in large parts of the state, the middle class and a lot of the upper working class has ceded the public schools to impoverished and unmotivated groups.

You can't really blame the parents that do this - everyone is going to do the best for their own children - but I think it is one of the factors torpedoing the public system.

I'd like to see the stats on what percentage of students in the high performing areas attend public school and what percentage of students in the low performing areas attend public school.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 4:10 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 9:30 pm
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27246 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 4:13 pm to
I guess Zachary should ask the state not to include the school system since the same 8 people complain every year about us having less schools than their district. Usually it’s little brother Livingston schools patrons.
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/6/19 at 4:16 pm to
Live Oak High still rocking an A. I believe it was highly rated when I graduated there (2007) and it was a shite fest compared to where I previously went to school.
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