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LA Attorneys: why don't we have e-file?

Posted on 12/29/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 2:54 pm
Texas mandates it

hell i was looking at the dismissal in Roy Moore's case and fricking Alabama uses it

every federal court requires it

after review, it appears LASC and the 1st Circuit CoA uses it

does this show how truly terrible our bar is that something like e-file for district court filings seems like it will never happen?
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 2:59 pm to
E-file would be efficient and cost-effective. Louisiana doesn't do efficient and cost-effective things.
Posted by BrotherEsau
Member since Aug 2011
3602 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:00 pm to
CDC and Jefferson both have and use now.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:00 pm to
Louisiana gonna Louisiana
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:00 pm to
Some parishes definitely have e-filing capabilities. I think St. Tammany got it a month or so ago.

I’ve never practiced without it and I can’t imagine the fricking nightmare of filing every single thing at the clerk’s desk or via fax.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35543 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:15 pm to
You literally have no efile here? (I'm visiting fam in BR.)

That's insanity.

I get mad when i have to mail discovery instead of emailing it (You can email by agreement, but you don't file with the court, so the statutory method is still snail mail and tree killing, not that i care about the latter really--i just hate printers and postage when totally unnecessary.)

However, in GA, the state courts use third-party services (and require efile for most stuff), which charge for everything. E.g., $5.00 plus a service fee and a credit card fee (which you have to use) to file a certificate of service of discovery.

No one complains because it's beans in the grand scheme, but it is indeed a SCHEME nonetheless.







Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13499 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:17 pm to
Sometimes it's nice getting out of the office for an hour to go "file pleadings."

Can't imagine the hassle it creates in rural areas, though. Gretna to Grand Isle is 103 miles each way! (Are there lawyers in Grand Isle?)
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85576 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:27 pm to
I’ve practiced in La and Tx. In Tx, efile is efficient and discovery is sent via email. No need for a runner. Filing in Texas is cheaper too.

La is slowly getting there, piecemeal though. Until there’s a statewide mandate it’ll be shitty. Don’t expect the CDC one to be efficient or simple.

The worst is Orleans Crim Court. Not only is there no efile, but you still have to file motions in open court and get a hearing date set right there. One Judge if I recall wants like four copies filed with the clerk then three copies delivered to her in open court or some Byzantine bullshite.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:31 pm to
It seems like a lot of the smaller district courts don't have the technology to do so yet. E-file will gradually catch on from the bigger districts on down (19th, 15th, 1st, 26th, Orleans, 24th, etc)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

The worst is Orleans Crim Court. Not only is there no efile, but you still have to file motions in open court and get a hearing date set right there. One Judge if I recall wants like four copies filed with the clerk then three copies delivered to her in open court or some Byzantine bullshite.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

It seems like a lot of the smaller district courts don't have the technology to do so yet.

it's insane that we allow them to drag down the entire state

it's proof that we have too many clerks, courts, and political divisions
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:40 pm to
quote:


The worst is Orleans Crim Court. Not only is there no efile, but you still have to file motions in open court and get a hearing date set right there. One Judge if I recall wants like four copies filed with the clerk then three copies delivered to her in open court or some Byzantine bullshite.


Mississippi has e-filing but I always bring copies to court jic
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70184 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:44 pm to
I don't mess around much in state courts, but I know a few counties here have been on e-file a while, and it looks like the State is on a uniform system rollout now.
LINK

I'd bet you there are some old dogs in backwater areas in all states that don't have copiers that scan to PDF. So, they probably could not e-file. To this day, I still see a few people on the Mich bar website that don't have email addys. Who the F is faxing these days?
This post was edited on 12/29/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85576 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:46 pm to
It’s really a PITA when you have to drive to the courthouse just to file a motion, and hope the judge is on the bench but not in the middle of a hearing or trial. Such bullshite. Orleans Crim Ct is a frustrating place to practice.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:47 pm to
Word.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71211 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

it's insane that we allow them to drag down the entire state

it's proof that we have too many clerks, courts, and political divisions



You have no idea just how behind the times most government offices are in the state. Most of the computers at the Justice Department still run off of Windows XP.
Posted by NOLA Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
844 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:52 pm to
There are 64 parishes and 42 judicial districts. Many of those areas are very rural. The Louisiana Supreme Court will have to mandate it, but I can't imagine that will happen until there is a standard program or system that the Clerks can acquire to set it up.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12590 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:54 pm to
Sheriff's lobby. They would lose big bank.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4563 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 3:59 pm to
I was just talking about this the other day. It's absolutely absurd how much of my stuff Orleans CDC loses on a regular basis. The kicker: "oh just refile it, and send a new check".

Only other option is to go hire a runner to make sure it's done correctly.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11723 posts
Posted on 12/29/17 at 4:00 pm to
There are a few district courts that have it. The Clerk of Court lobby is pretty powerful, and they want to be able to gouge you insanely.

I looked up the cost to e-file with Caddo Parish one time, and IIRC, it was more expensive to e-file than to just regular file.

I have heard that there are ruminations about switching to a state-wide system, but the Clerks of Court don't want to lose their fiefdom, and the Legislature won't pony up the money.
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