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re: Kroger hiked milk, egg prices above inflation, merger judge told

Posted on 8/28/24 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 12:52 pm to
Sub 2% margin is a cash grab?

Weird.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 12:55 pm to
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Cillian

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Milton Friedman said it best:

“Keep your eye on how much the Government is spending, because that is the true tax.

There is no such thing as an unbalanced budget. You PAY FOR IT either in the form of taxes, or indirectly in the form of inflation or debt.”
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 12:59 pm to
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Wal Mart


How is Wal-mart a monopoly?

Also Kroger and Albertson's shouldn't be allowed to merge and Kroger isn't making crazy profit margins and can charge what they want for the products they sell

Govt should be going after JBS and the other meat packers along with the pork and chicken oligopolies - most are foreign owned and are crazy corrupt
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Well, yeah. The first stimmy and PPP was under Trump. The subsequents under Biden. Are you in a camp that may envision that chart leveling off or falling had Trump been retained in January 2021?

No

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But that's secondary to my original post which is business in this country used the pandemic to increase profit over and above inflationary true costs to their balance sheets. We all know it.

Are you under the impression that inflation is the only factor these businesses had to deal with?
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:00 pm to
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I really don't know honestly. By definition, inflation is simply an increase in the money supply as you said. The spike in the supply began 48 months ago. I'd love to calmly discuss the anomalies with you tbh. In a lot of consumer categories, things like supply, worker population, ingredient cost, fuel etc have somewhat normalized. But, as an example, cost per pound hasn't decreased.


Every item is going to have peculiarities to their price model. Demand shifts and challenges that cause some items to fight the overall trend. Those are exceptions.

I don't see how the overall picture is anything beyond money supply. The current administration would love to find someone else to blame, and that is why they are turning on retailers. The funny thing is groceries have always had penny margins. However, everyone sees the price of groceries skyrocketing so they laughably picked the industry with the least margin to publicly blame.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:04 pm to
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That's TOTALLY unrelated. Supply and demand has ceased to be a real thing and my local AG grocery store has gotten on that SKYPE call with Krogers and Albertsons. They decided not to compete on price ever even if it means gobbling up market share.

Money being devalued has nothing to do with increased retail prices?
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:06 pm to
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Money being devalued has nothing to do with increased retail prices?

I figured the country-wide grocery store collusion Skype call might have tipped you off to the saracasm
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:07 pm to
So Kroger must have lost a lot of business to other grocers in their operating area.

Milk and eggs are very much a commodity and can be purchased anywhere.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:07 pm to
I would 100% put my trust in Robert Reich's opinions on economic over some Tigerdroppings poster. He was the Secretary of Labor and a professor.

I do not like when people put up a chart about inflation that excludes food, shelter, fuel - these are major expenses.
Posted by td1
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:08 pm to
The only thing you are going to get by setting a “max” price is everyone charging the “max” price, and that will be followed up shortly by more mergers bc the little guys can’t survive on your fixed “max” price. You will also eliminate higher prices in rich areas and lower prices in poor areas. Plus who is going to pick the arbitrary date we calculate the price increased higher than inflation? We going back to 1912, 1925, 1960, 1980, pre COVID?????? What’s an acceptable profit margin?

It’s all the dumbest make prices even higher, kill jobs and economic growth bull shite ever.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:10 pm to
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figured the country-wide grocery store collusion Skype call might have tipped you off to the saracasm

Goddamn it
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:11 pm to
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I would 100% put my trust in Robert Reich's opinions on economic over some Tigerdroppings poster. He was the Secretary of Labor and a professor. I do not like when people put up a chart about inflation that excludes food, shelter, fuel - these are major expens

Oh shite. You’re back.

How was your gap year in Marseille?
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6630 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:13 pm to
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I would 100% put my trust in Robert Reich's opinions on economic over some Tigerdroppings poster. He was the Secretary of Labor and a professor.

I do not like when people put up a chart about inflation that excludes food, shelter, fuel - these are major expenses.


Robert Reich is a paid political propagandist and confirmed buffoon.

The only economic principle he understands is depositing his check for saying economically illiterate things publicly.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
3691 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:18 pm to
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Robert Reich is a paid political propagandist and confirmed buffoon.


Your argument is specious. So, I'm not going to dignify your comment with any response.

You need to read his bio on wikipeidia.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:21 pm to
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I would 100% put my trust in Robert Reich's opinions on economic over some Tigerdroppings poster.



My dog knows more about economics than Robert Reich. Dude is right up there with Paul Krugman for shitty takes.
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6630 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:22 pm to
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yoga girl



Are you the female El Gaucho?
Posted by wm72
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:38 pm to
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"Kroger gross profit for the twelve months ending April 30, 2024 was $33.424B, a 3.75% increase year-over-year.

Kroger annual gross profit for 2024 was $33.364B, a 4.99% increase from 2023.

Kroger annual gross profit for 2023 was $31.778B, a 4.71% increase from 2022."


https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/KR/kroger/gross-profit

Seems from a quick search that they do decently on that supposed tiny profit margin. . .

Shockingly, it also doesn't seem that inflation is really having the same effect on them that it is on grocery shoppers.


This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:43 pm to
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I would 100% put my trust in Robert Reich's opinions on economic


What kind of a fricking idiot are you to make this statement?

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yoga girl


Nevermind.
Posted by yoga girl
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:45 pm to
Your ad hominy attacks prove my point.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 8/28/24 at 1:46 pm to
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Your ad hominy attacks prove my point.


Idiot.
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