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re: Know someone who needs a job? Consider construction.

Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:14 am to
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3603 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:14 am to
Are we talking about field hands or management & estimating. Being in construction, I can verify that field hands are in very short supply. There are management and estimating jobs available but the pay is shite until you get to the top executives of the biggest builders, especially given the hours you’re expected to put in. We’re talking 45-60k for a job you’re expected to work six days per week (on average) and 11-12 hours per day.
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3603 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:19 am to
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What college degree do I need to go in to construction?



Building Science or Construction Engineering, depending on what your school calls it
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38624 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:33 am to
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Are we talking about field hands or management & estimating. Being in construction, I can verify that field hands are in very short supply. There are management and estimating jobs available but the pay is shite until you get to the top executives of the biggest builders, especially given the hours you’re expected to put in. We’re talking 45-60k for a job you’re expected to work six days per week (on average) and 11-12 hours per day.


not in industrial especially with a degree. Make more than that first day stepping into the office working 40 hours a week.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:37 am to
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Wages are unreal in Ak. It's not uncommon for a guy to work 6-7 months a year and make over 100k, but that includes a lot of overtime.




Talked to a guy at a brewery the other day who was making an RV trip around the country with his wife. They both work in Alaska for 6 months out of the year and spend the rest of their time hunting/travelling.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31623 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 11:51 am to
My C.M. degree is working out very very well for me. And I get to shite in the job trailer instead of the portapotty.

In all seriousness, not a bad degree to pursue
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73677 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:00 pm to
I don't get out of bed for anything less than $300 an hour.
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1848 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:05 pm to
we have a shortage of everyone. from unskilled laborers to project managers, there is alot of work out there right now.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
11559 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:17 pm to
In 10 years there will be no skilled trim carpenters. Young guy that can learn this skill will name his price.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124823 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:19 pm to
Are you a blue collar baw?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76075 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 12:26 pm to
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The money is good if you're not a laborer.


The skilled trades guys are making plenty of money.



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But in the office, it's all tedious paperwork.


You have to build templates for all your day to day shite. Get an intern from the local community college majoring in project mgmt or construction mgmt etc. Make them do all the tedious bullshite.


You need to be out shaking hands, kissing babies, playing golf, having beers, building relationships. That's how you'll bring real value to your company.



This post was edited on 2/22/19 at 12:27 pm
Posted by bayou choupique
the banks of bayou choupique
Member since Oct 2014
1848 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:19 pm to
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In 10 years there will be no skilled trim carpenters. Young guy that can learn this skill will name his price.


i agree and will add other small trades as well. I would like to open up a handy man service where i live and do it only on weekends. I am shocked the adds we see on our neighborhood facebook page from people needing a light switched changed or etc. where i live it requires no license as long as one project doesn't exceed $30,000 and insurance can be purchased for a couple hundred per year.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53806 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:25 pm to
We will always need to build things.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:26 pm to
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We will always need to build things.

let's start with a wall, howbowdah?
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3603 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:27 pm to
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not in industrial especially with a degree. Make more than that first day stepping into the office working 40 hours a week.


Be specific. What type of industrial? What trade? You sure as hell aren't making more than that in Alabama putting up pre-engineered metal buildings, which is all most manufacturing companies are. Its a shell and concrete.

and you made more than $60,000 the first day?
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:29 pm to
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We are short more than 200,000 construction workers in the U.S., and getting younger workers is going to be a real challenge," Dietz said.


Because they are not will to raise wages. Still trying to hire people at $12 per hour and require you to buy your own tools. You can make that kind of money at Wal-Mart now, not sweating in the summer sun.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21836 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:33 pm to
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There are management and estimating jobs available but the pay is shite until you get to the top executives of the biggest builders, especially given the hours you’re expected to put in. We’re talking 45-60k for a job you’re expected to work six days per week (on average) and 11-12 hours per day.


Licensed trades do better... welders, electricians, plumbers, HVAC, iron workers and riggers.

I agree about general laborers though. That said if you become competent and skilled at your job you will do well.

At least in NYC master welders can do really well, often exceeding $40+/hour, not including overtime, which is $60+/hour.
Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:36 pm to
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Because they are not will to raise wages. Still trying to hire people at $12 per hour and require you to buy your own tools. You can make that kind of money at Wal-Mart now, not sweating in the summer sun.


This. They are hard on the body, and being outside all day. Not to mention, you can get jobs that pay about the same that you don't have to do that and you require minimal skills.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 1:46 pm to
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This. They are hard on the body, and being outside all day. Not to mention, you can get jobs that pay about the same that you don't have to do that and you require minimal skills.


I talk to plenty of 30 year old joes who look 50 not for me
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30181 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 2:00 pm to
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well in that case, it aint so easy landing one of those jobs.


It's easy to land those jobs if you're willing to put in the time to learn the trade. I'm in the glass business, and it takes a few years as a grunt to start to build a decent experience base, and longer to get good at it. I regularly hire people with zero glazing experience. I will pay you and train you. I know tons of other trades that will do the same.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 2/22/19 at 6:01 pm to
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It's easy to land those jobs if you're willing to put in the time to learn the trade. I'm in the glass business, and it takes a few years as a grunt to start to build a decent experience base, and longer to get good at it. I regularly hire people with zero glazing experience. I will pay you and train you. I know tons of other trades that will do the same.



This is why the construction industry can't find workers. We hire "grunts" at $16 per hour. Goes to $21 when you can run a manufacturing machine alone.

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