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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:45 pm to
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I’d file a grievance for review if I were one of his collars


Oh, without a doubt. I bet there are a few attorneys making change filing all those papers right now.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18993 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:56 pm to
I’m just finishing up on listening today and oh man do I think that Yuri fricked up by saying he would take any report written by him or Proctor as gospel and testify to it. Dude just opened the door all the way for the defense.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:03 pm to
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he would take any report written by him or Proctor as gospel and testify to it.


Wow.. I followed it a little bit this morning but haven't looked at anything since. Was Proctor considered the lead investigator? I wonder how much each jury member knows about Proctor? I assume they know the story because they live there, but I'm sure not everyone followed the story.
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:21 pm to
All this time goes by and I just realized we haven’t heard from a medical examiner about the victim’s body and how it relates. I find that weird. They put a phone forensics woman in the stand to basically defend mccabe’s search (McCabe is not on trial). They put a meteorologist to tell us it was cold in Boston in January but no medical examiner ?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143816 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:25 pm to
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Was Proctor considered the lead investigator?


he wasn't considered the lead investigator. he was the lead investigator. he was fired for the way he handled the investigation.

it's absurd the state decided to re-try the case.

Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96984 posts
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:25 pm to
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but no medical examiner ?


Here is a witness list but not sure how current it is. From Fox

LINK
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:21 am to
The evidence was speaking to Yuri! Yuri must have learned from Trooper Paul.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:39 am to
Bukhenik has now accused Jackson of giving him faked/forged information for the second time. No one on the prosecution, or in the jury, can think this looks good for the Commonwealth.
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:54 am to
AJ keeping his cool during this is impressive. The guy answers no questions.
Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
832 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 8:59 am to
So he remembers everything about handing over evidence except who he handed it to. He’s so fricking clearly lying. And he refuses to answer ‘yes’ or ‘no.’ This is blowing my mind.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:02 am to
This is a complete joke. It's very clear he doesn't want to say that Proctor filled out the evidence folder.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15074 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:10 am to
Yuri should not be reliable to testify in a case again
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:13 am to
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AJ keeping his cool during this is impressive. The guy answers no questions.


He is likely just letting him bury himself. The more it looks like they are hiding something, the better for him.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122172 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:16 am to
He is a smug arrogant prick.. For sure.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96984 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:28 am to
MSP hires some real winners don't they
Posted by 10tiger
Member since Jan 2021
282 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:08 pm to
I couldn’t take anymore macho oppositional defiant cop, is Yuri done or what?
Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
832 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:23 pm to
I don't think so? They just broke for lunch. AJ had him read all of the texts between Karen and Brian Higgins. That was painful.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96984 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 12:56 pm to
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AJ had him read all of the texts between Karen and Brian Higgins. That was painful.


What is AJ going for with that? To show they were (possibly) seeing other people?
Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
832 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:01 pm to
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What is AJ going for with that? T


Not sure. The Court TV chat session mentioned a few possibilities: To show motive for Brian Higgins getting into a fight with John at the Albert's house that night. And/or to make sure the jury heard all of it in case Brian Higgins pleads the 5th.

My thought is that he did it to punish Yuri for being an a-hole on the stand. Their texts messages were beyond cringe and him reading them was comical.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 5/9/25 at 1:04 pm to
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What is AJ going for with that? To show they were (possibly) seeing other people?

Part of the defense theory is that Higgins was involved in the death of John O'Keefe because of Karen flirting with him and then ghosting him. That or John found out and wanted to confront Brian.

ETA: Bukhenik refusing to say that those texts were flirtatious makes him look even worse.
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 1:05 pm
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