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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:09 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:09 am to
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something that made me sus was when the clean cut ems/firefighter guy said he got to work 2hrs early.... then went on this call im thinking he knew what he was getting into


That's plausible. 30 mins early ok. 1 hr early ok. 2 hrs early - nope.
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 7:55 am to


Andrea pre-gaming before court is back in session this morning. She's an appellate attorney and former public defender in Washington State.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:34 am to
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something that made me sus was when the clean cut ems/firefighter guy said he got to work 2hrs early.... then went on this call im thinking he knew what he was getting into. Maybe asked to go in knowing this wud come in. Ive never been 2 hrs early, and if I was. I sure wouldnt head out for free....

I think this is a little bit of a stretch. You think he it's more likely that he went into work early so he could willingly be involved in a murder coverup, rather than just because bad weather was coming, etc?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 8:59 am to
This judge may as well work for the prosecution. Jesus
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:04 am to
The part I really can't get over is all the things Higgins did. Who goes to work at 12: A.M. in the morning after drinking your arse off? Who disposes of a phone the way he did? Also, he's absolutely lying about the butt dial with Albert.
Posted by civiltiger07
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:45 am to
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The part I really can't get over is all the things Higgins did. Who goes to work at 12: A.M. in the morning after drinking your arse off? Who disposes of a phone the way he did? Also, he's absolutely lying about the butt dial with Albert.


Yea, Higgins was probably running cover for the Alberts. He went to the police station to monitor the traffic to see if anyone got wind of an accident at 34 Fairview so he could notify the Alberts.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 9:47 am to
Last place I’m going if I have been drinking all night is a police station, even if I worked there. Also, this judge has to be banging someone on the prosecution side. Right?
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:09 am to
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Also, this judge has to be banging someone on the prosecution side. Right?
Protecting.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:11 am to
They’re reading her and John’s text messages the day before. She comes off as a very needy stalkish chick.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:18 am to
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She comes off as a very needy stalkish chick.
I don't really care anything about what she's like. She could be the worst female to walk the United States and it would make zero difference to me.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:21 am to
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Also, this judge has to be banging someone on the prosecution side. Right?

I'm behind listening today. I haven't heard her say anything crazy so far. What is she doing that is so bad today?
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 10:22 am
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18995 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:23 am to
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I don't really care anything about what she's like. She could be the worst female to walk the United States and it would make zero difference to me.

Might not matter to you or me, but all it takes is one juror to be influenced by that.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:26 am to
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They’re reading her and John’s text messages the day before. She comes off as a very needy stalkish chick.


Does that prove that John was hit by a car?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:34 am to
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Might not matter to you or me, but all it takes is one juror to be influenced by that.
Then they will really love Troopa Procta.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:36 am to
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Does that prove that John was hit by a car?


What?? No. Why would you ask that?
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
11057 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:44 am to
She steps all over the defense when they were crossing yesterday. I haven’t been able to listen to anything today as I am traveling. This whole case blows my mind.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
9767 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:45 am to
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What?? No. Why would you ask that?


That is the crux of this case.

Did Karen hit John with the car that caused his death?

Brennan promised us in opening that the ScIeNcE would show that KR killed John with her car.

All of this is extraneous and a distraction from the central question of this case. KR being a crazy stalker doesn't mean she hit and killed John with the car.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:56 am to
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All of this is extraneous and a distraction from the central question of this case. KR being a crazy stalker doesn't mean she hit and killed John with the car.


Yeah I get that and I’m up to date on the charges. I was simply pointing out she comes off as such. Sorry for including a personal opinion.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:57 am to
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I haven’t been able to listen to anything today as I am traveling.

I had YouTube link over my truck speakers yesterday while traveling lol
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18995 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:02 am to
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That is the crux of this case.

Did Karen hit John with the car that caused his death?

Brennan promised us in opening that the ScIeNcE would show that KR killed John with her car.

All of this is extraneous and a distraction from the central question of this case. KR being a crazy stalker doesn't mean she hit and killed John with the car.

I'm with you on all of this, but you have to remember that we are in day 3 of a 6-8 week trial. There's a lot of stuff that isn't necessarily meant to "prove" anything, but more so to influence the jurors. I know you know all of this, I'm just stating for others.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 11:05 am
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