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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by 10tiger
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:03 pm to
Anything earth shattering from the last female on the stand ? Caption said John’s friend
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:05 pm to
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Anything earth shattering from the last female on the stand ? Caption said John’s friend

The only thing I got from her was the defendant & deceased was seen being lovey at a bar
Posted by BeepBopBoop
Northshore
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:08 pm to
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No court tomorrow due to heat?


So they cant hold court in that courtroom all summer because the A/C is too loud?
Posted by EnglebertHumperdink
Club Med
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:20 pm to
Jurors are human and I feel Brennan comes off as such an arse that it has to affect their decision right? If they can’t stand the prosecutor or attorney it could sway their thoughts. I know it isn’t supposed to, but I’d assume it does.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:38 pm to
Rekieta's watching Proctor's testimony from the 1st trial now with the defense going over his text messages with his h.s. buddies now
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:40 pm to
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Jurors are human and I feel Brennan comes off as such an arse that it has to affect their decision right? If they can’t stand the prosecutor or attorney it could sway their thoughts.


I was on the jury for a civil trial, and after watching the lawyers work for a while I grew to really dislike the plaintiff attorneys. I didn't find them to be truthful and found that they were hiding certain facts.

If Brennan turns off the jury by his actions in the court room that is on Brennan and Brennan only.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:44 pm to
I dislike Brennan so much. He comes across as a dishonest weasel.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147126 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:57 pm to
"She's a whack job [C You Next Tuesday]" by Proctor to his buddies about KR

"She's a babe, weird Fall River accent though, & no arse"

Sounds like she'd be popular here on tOT
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 12:59 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:53 pm to
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I was on the jury for a civil trial, and after watching the lawyers work for a while I grew to really dislike the plaintiff attorneys. I didn't find them to be truthful and found that they were hiding certain facts.
This happens way more than it should.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:57 pm to
The guy that I know from the gym is apparently a childhood friend of Proctors and was in the text chain so that’s why he had to testify.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 2:19 pm to
Looks like the defense will rest Tuesday or thereabouts.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:00 pm to
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Looks like the defense will rest Tuesday or thereabouts.


Good. Conclusion coming to a head then.

Wonder if Proctor will be on the stand between that time. I think it’s inevitable for the defense to put him on. Probably last so AJ can turn him into boudin and show not only what a prick he is but also how his shadiness as the lead investigator influenced everything from evidence to personal relationships with the people involved.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:24 pm to
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Wonder if Proctor will be on the stand between that time
What became of the motion? If the defense gets the adverse presumption, I doubt they call him.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147126 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:35 pm to
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Wonder if Proctor will be on the stand between that time. I think it’s inevitable for the defense to put him on. Probably last so AJ can turn him into boudin and show not only what a prick he is but also how his shadiness as the lead investigator influenced everything from evidence to personal relationships with the people involved.

The risk is then the prosecution would be permitted to ask him leading questions about the investigation on cross... the prosecution was basically begging the defense to call Proctor during the voir dire of the friend a few days ago

I would figure that's why that friend was on the stand a few days ago trying to authencate the messages... to avoid that risk of calling Proctor
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:36 pm to
Not sure, computer has been on life support today so I’ve missed everything

Hopefully she takes the time today and tomorrow to rule - although we know how she will rule.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10262 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:38 pm to
I feel the same way about Allen Jackson. What an asswhole.

Woman on stand said Karen was not drunk. Roll eyes.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:17 pm to
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I feel the same way about Allen Jackson. What an asswhole.

He's freaking awesome.
Posted by BrewDrees95
Member since Jan 2021
468 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:30 pm to
Highly doubt they call proctor after the cop yesterday about the taillight. Don’t want to give proctor a chance to refute that
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:09 pm to
Perhaps. But it’s also a pristine opportunity for the defense to dunk on him.

You don’t nor can’t cruise around with evidence in your trunk for months on end. Years in fact.

He clearly shows bias and that will be a terrible look for the CW and the case at large.

Prediction: Proctor gets called up
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 8:21 pm to
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Rekieta's watching Proctor's testimony from the 1st trial now with the defense going over his text messages with his h.s. buddies now

From someone who was a very big Rekieta fan during the Rittenhouse and Depp trials and spent money subscribing to his Locals and YouTube channels at the time. This man was arrested for cocaine posession ( <25g) and at the same time had his, at the time, 8 year old daughter, test higher than the cocaine metabolite cutoff. Do not listen to him on anything related to the law.

ETA: His 5 kids were removed from his home and not returned until 6 months later. If you want to watch live commentary of this trial then watch Andrea Burkhart, Emily D Baker, or Melanie little. If you want end of day stuff then LawyerYouKnow for unbiased view or PotentiallyCriminal for Karen being innocent.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 8:29 pm
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