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re: Justin Jefferson is the father of his ex-girlfriend's baby after pressuring her to abort

Posted on 7/16/24 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173802 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 6:16 pm to
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Cleat chasing for bags is the ultimate win for talentless whores.

So brave.

You read this story and think that she is the a-hole in this equation?

You must be fricking retarded
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41333 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 6:17 pm to
Instagram and random sex before marriage is one of the main problems in this country.
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
Member since Oct 2018
11941 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 6:21 pm to
Chiming in on this:

JJ is a good kid, he reacted, and prob his initial reaction to when he was told was “get an abortion” prob scared in shock and fear as to what and how his life would change in his early 20s.

That being said, when he holds his child for the first time, all of his priorities and dreams for the future will change.

We aren’t talking about Rae Carruth here people

Eta -a lot of holier than thou on this thread man…prob every single one had sex before they were married too.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
53519 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 6:22 pm to
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Instagram and random sex before marriage is one of the main problems in this country.


I don't know where to start with this, other than by fixing the structure.

IG and premarital sex are two of this country's main problems.

ETA: Those are WAY down the list



This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
27162 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 6:56 pm to
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Because you made it up just to throw in that “staunch republican” jab.


I hate that truth hurts you so much. All of what I said was true and the reason I threw the political comment and social standing was to let you know that it’s not only minorities, poor, skanks, etc who get themselves into bad situations and choose that avenue as a way out.

Aboortions aren’t a new phenomenon brought about by ne’er do wells as some want to believe. It’s an all inclusive club.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37083 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 6:58 pm to
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Eta -a lot of holier than thou on this thread man…prob every single one had sex before they were married too.

Probably didn’t tell a female to kill her unborn child though
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37083 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 6:59 pm to
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Those are WAY down the list

Social media is not WAY down the list of issues with this country
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24218 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 7:20 pm to
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Am I? Not really sure what I said differently The guy had sex - it produced a child - the woman keeps the child - he’s responsible regardless If he knew she wanted to have a child, and he didn’t, he should’ve found another ho


Here’s the difference, women lie about birth control all the time. Women take semen and insert it, read about the nba’s meetings with players on preventing pregnancies.

I have no issues with the women having complete control over having an abortion or not, but if the man doesn’t want the child and prefers an abortion he should not only sign over his fatherhood rights but additionally sign over his financial obligation.

The woman can choose to keep the baby or not under those circumstances. Her body, her choice.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
27162 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:34 pm to
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he should not only sign over his fatherhood rights but additionally sign over his financial obligation.


I doubt she raped him so he shares responsibility for what happened. Use a damn rubber man….
Posted by RougeWinger
Member since Jul 2024
101 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:39 pm to
What's BS is that a woman can unilaterally have an abortion without even informing the father. Even if the father wanted to keep the child and release the mother of all responsibilities after birth the mother can just go "nah, I don't wanna." But if a man doesn't want to take care of a child financially or otherwise he has no say in it. In fact he's legally required to do so.

But abortion is trashy as frick in the end either way.
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9552 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:42 pm to
When did these whorish pregnancy pics, become a thing? Just makes you a bigger attention whore.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3275 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:44 pm to
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I have no issues with the women having complete control over having an abortion or not, but if the man doesn’t want the child and prefers an abortion he should not only sign over his fatherhood rights but additionally sign over his financial obligation.

I understand the desire to find some sense of an “equal playing field” when it comes to reproductive rights, but it seems unnecessary to me. As a man, I can:

-choose not to sleep with women I don’t want to have kids with
-failing that, I can choose non-vaginal sex
-failing that, I can choose not to have unprotected sex vaginal sex
-failing that, I can choose to pull out

There are plenty of off-roads on the pathway to parenthood. I just don’t see a need for “the system” to do anything for a dude who chooses to take none of them.
Posted by RougeWinger
Member since Jul 2024
101 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 8:53 pm to
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I understand the desire to find some sense of an “equal playing field” when it comes to reproductive rights, but it seems unnecessary to me. As a man, I can:

-choose not to sleep with women I don’t want to have kids with
-failing that, I can choose non-vaginal sex
-failing that, I can choose not to have unprotected sex vaginal sex
-failing that, I can choose to pull out

There are plenty of off-roads on the pathway to parenthood. I just don’t see a need for “the system” to do anything for a dude who chooses to take none of them


Why should the father not have the option to absolve himself of all responsibilities after the mistake was made just like women? I men they could have not had sex, made the guy wear a condom, took it up the butt or hawk tuah'd instead. And if we're going to just accept an unfair and unjust system then the man who's burdening the majority of the financial burden should get primary custody.

And if neither parent is capable of supporting the child financially then the child should be taken and made a ward of the state. End all this snap and welfare crap and use the money to build orphanages.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
27162 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:08 pm to
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What's BS is that a woman can unilaterally have an abortion without even informing the father. Even if the father wanted to keep the child


I understand what you’re saying, but I’ve never seen this happen. Young dudes want to be young dudes unless they are in love, then they become young married fathers.

Luckily, as far as I know, I’ve never knocked a chick up, but settling down and raising a kid wasn’t something I wanted anything to do with at that age.

It’s the question of whether an evening of bliss is worth a possible lifetime of something we don’t want to deal with.

Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3275 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:09 pm to
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Why should the father not have the option to absolve himself of all responsibilities after the mistake was made just like women? I men they could have not had sex, made the guy wear a condom, took it up the butt or hawk tuah'd instead. And if we're going to just accept an unfair and unjust system then the man who's burdening the majority of the financial burden should get primary custody

And if neither parent is capable of supporting the child financially then the child should be taken and made a ward of the state. End all this snap and welfare crap and use the money to build orphanages.

Because when a child comes into the picture, I no longer care about what is “convenient” or “fair” for the two adults who created him/her.

The kid had nothing to do with the actions of the two “grown ups” here, so no, putting a kid in an friggin orphanage (which is considerably worse than growing up on welfare with a bio parent) in the name of “equity” between the two people who were thinking with their crotches doesn’t interest me at all.
Posted by DMagic
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Member since Aug 2010
50389 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:13 pm to
All those off roads also exist for women
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16837 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:21 pm to
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NFL star Ja'Marr Chase's baby mama asked for $50,000 a month in child support while battling the superstar over custody of their newborn.

According to legal documents, obtained by The Blast, the mother of Chase's 8-month-old son allegedly pressed the wide receiver's money manager for $600,000 a year in child support




yahoo news
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 9:23 pm
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3275 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:28 pm to
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All those off roads also exist for women

Women bear the physical risk/burden of carrying and birthing babies so I’ll call it even.

Look, I get that it’s not perfect, but currently, the “system” makes both parents responsible for the kid in some fashion even if it’s potentially inequitable. What’s being advocated for either encourages abortions or takes material support away from kids that they would otherwise get. I don't see how that’s better for the one human we should be concerned about in these situations.
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 9:45 pm
Posted by RougeWinger
Member since Jul 2024
101 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:52 pm to
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so no, putting a kid in an friggin orphanage (which is considerably worse than growing up on welfare with a bio parent)


Is it though? What's the data say about orphanage kids? Because the data on kids from single mother households is out, and it's an abject failure.
Posted by RougeWinger
Member since Jul 2024
101 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 9:54 pm to
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Women bear the physical risk/burden of carrying and birthing babies so I’ll call it even.


It's virtually no significant risk. I suppose we could compare the number of women who die or have complications during childbirth to the number of fathers who get injured or killed working to pay for said baby.
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