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re: Just when I thought American Airlines could not sink any lower...Child porn is 9yo's fault

Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:21 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:21 pm to
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I don't want him tossing out potentially good arguments


Let me know the next time “you should have known there was a video recording device attached to the toilet” is a potentially good argument.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103130 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:22 pm to
How the frick did their legal team think this was a better response than admitting an employee did this contrary to airline protocol?


Even if they win this case, that is going to be the PR nightmare of all time for them.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:23 pm to
SFP must work for them
Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
1187 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:23 pm to
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Let me know the next time “you should have known there was a video recording device attached to the toilet” is a potentially good argument.


The NINE YEAR OLD should have known.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:25 pm to
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Let me know the next time “you should have known there was a video recording device attached to the toilet” is a potentially good argument.



again, this was a contracted law firm, chances are that he or she knows nothing about airline/security operations and was just throwing shite against the wall to see what might stick
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103130 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:25 pm to
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The NINE YEAR OLD should have known.


I bet that lawyer is also of the opinion that nine year old can consent to a sex change without parental approval.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103130 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:25 pm to
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was just throwing shite against the wall to see what might stick


Know what won’t stick? This lawyer being contracted to work for AA.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:26 pm to
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This lawyer being contracted to work for AA.


fact!!
Posted by Cell of Awareness
Member since Jan 2024
1187 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:26 pm to
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again, this was a contracted law firm, chances are that he or she knows nothing about airline/security operations and was just throwing shite against the wall to see what might stick


And if you can find a single case where a 9 year old was found culpable at any level? What if he said the reason was she was black?
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:29 pm to
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And if you can find a single case where a 9 year old was found culpable at any level? What if he said the reason was she was black?


again, the nine year old didn't file the suit(I don't know who did,) but this, at face value sounds like a criminal charge, suing the company is searching for a payout
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:30 pm to
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chances are that he or she knows nothing about airline/security operations


Maybe he should learn something about his client’s operations before submitting the filing? It’s not like he or she is supposedly an intelligent person with an advanced degree or anything.


I also don’t need to know anything about airline security to know that it’s a safe and reasonable assumption that the toilet I’m using doesn’t have a device video recording my dick and balls
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 4:34 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:31 pm to
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again, the nine year old didn't file the suit

Effectively she did. It was filed on her behalf by her parents.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:34 pm to
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It was filed on her behalf by her parents.


probably after a visit from Gordon
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13710 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:36 pm to
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If there's an argument to be made that the victim didn't do what was necessary and reasonable


The victim was 9 years old. What exactly do you think a 9 year old thinks is necessary and reasonable when they go to the bathroom on an airplane?
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5071 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:36 pm to
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How the frick did their legal team think this was a better response than admitting an employee did this contrary to airline protocol?


They probably have a boilerplate response form to the lawsuit that raises every available legal defense and rather than read through them all and check for any that seem awkward or stupid, they just printed it out and filed at the courthouse.

A lot of legal claims are "use it or lose it" so if you don't raise them in the initial response they are deemed waived. So firms use boilerplate forms that raise them all.

Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18851 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:38 pm to
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again, the nine year old didn't file the suit(I don't know who did,) but this, at face value sounds like a criminal charge, suing the company is searching for a payout


You don't think the airline should be sued for a 9 year old being recorded in the bathroom?
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:38 pm to
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Maybe he should learn something about his client’s operations before submitting the filing? It’s not like he or she is supposedly an intelligent person with an advanced degree or anything.



DEI and outsourcing? get what you pay for

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I also don’t need to know anything about airline security to know that it’s a safe and reasonable assumption that the toilet I’m using doesn’t have a device video recording my dick and balls


that's where you're wrong, when it comes to security the best practice is to "keep 'em guessing" as opposed to being 100% routine and predictable
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103130 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:38 pm to
You still have to weigh losing a defense vs the PR damage taken by even raising it.


How much money would the airline lose if they lost this case?

How much damage does the airline take from claiming this defense even if they win?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40279 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:41 pm to
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that's where you're wrong


How am I wrong? The airline itself agrees with me and disagrees with their own attorney.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9477 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:41 pm to
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It's a legal proceeding. I'd expect my lawyer to use whatever tactic he can to limit my exposure. I don't want him tossing out potentially good arguments because "that sounds too mean." If there's an argument to be made that the victim didn't do what was necessary and reasonable, and that's not my fault, it needs to be made.


It’s a 9 year old girl. You and your hypothetical attorney are idiots.
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