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re: Just when I thought American Airlines could not sink any lower...Child porn is 9yo's fault

Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:42 pm to
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You and your hypothetical attorney are idiots.


ever been in a court room?
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
5290 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:46 pm to
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again, this was a contracted law firm, chances are that he or she knows nothing


Well that much is painfully obvious

And whoever it was SHOULD HAVE educated themselves beforehand. That created a PR disaster for the airline and the contracted firm and could be a fireable offense given said PR nightmare
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
5290 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:48 pm to
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again, the nine year old didn't file the suit


Why does that matter. The attorney said the kid should have known. That’s a terrible not legitimate defense regardless of who filed.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:50 pm to
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That created a PR disaster for the airline


much worse has happened on flights, including on AA flights, the public has a short memory and by and large can't remember which airline is which, someone will get paid, someone might lose their contract, but this will be old news shortly with no ill affect on American
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
6019 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:55 pm to


There is no doubt that this is is a heinous act by the flight attendant.

Would or should a 14 year old have known that the setup pictured above was an iPhone taped to a toilet lid? Probably. You can clearly see what appears to be an iPhone under the tape.

Accordingly, does that 14 year old have some responsibility to not just ignore the iPhone and use the bathroom anyway? Probably.

Would your answer change if it was a 9 year old?

Would or should a 9 year old have known that the setup pictured above was an iPhone taped to a toilet lid? Maybe. Probably?

At what age should a child know that the setup was an iPhone and not use that bathroom?

In any event, the issue of whether to raise that possible defense should have been discussed with AA by the attorney prior to filing the answer.

This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 4:58 pm
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
5290 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:10 pm to
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Salviati


Well we now know who likes to looks at child porn

What if the child was 8, 6 or 5. How young does one have to be before it’s not their fault some pervert videos them pissing on an airplane.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
20392 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:19 pm to
If I'm ever in a public bathroom with a lid (and sitting down) my typical routine is to pull my pants down and then lift the lid and sit down in a single motion. I, as a 30 y/o, wouldn't have given a second thought to it until after I was done. The 14 year old did exactly what I would've done: business first and then notice what's off.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:21 pm to
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The 14 year old


would probably have immediately spotted the cellphone
Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
20392 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:28 pm to
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would probably have immediately spotted the cellphone



Faced the other way? I mean, it's clear she spotted it immediately after, which is why we even know about it at all, but people have different habits when it comes to toilets. Some of us are trusting, face-forwarders and some are the kind to stand up and wipe like they're sandpapering a 2x4.

My point being, I can totally see how a 14 y/o, or anyone, wouldn't have noticed anything off until they're done
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
4315 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:31 pm to
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Call me sexiest, but only women should be flight attendants.


You are the sexiest poster on TD. AKA the skinniest kid at fat camp.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
6019 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:34 pm to
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Well we now know who likes to looks at child porn



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What if the child was 8, 6 or 5. How young does one have to be before it’s not their fault some pervert videos them pissing on an airplane.
My question started with 14 year olds. Your question ends with 5 year olds.

I'd say that a 14 year old knew or should have known that an iPhone was taped to the toilet lid, and she should not use that bathroom. I certainly would not blame her 100%, perhaps no more than 5%, but I think she can't just ignore the obvious iPhone.

I'd say that a 5 year old would not know and should not have known that an iPhone was taped to the toilet lid.

I'm not sure where to draw the line between those two ages.

Remember, this is not criminal litigation. This is a lawsuit about money. I'm not even arguing that AA should have raised comparative fault in its Answer. I'm merely issue spotting.
Posted by momentoftruth87
DeSantis Country
Member since Oct 2013
76116 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:37 pm to
Ngl kind of scary to imagine with all the spy shite and technology in 2024. Most of us probably encounter it more than we know.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:39 pm to
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Ngl kind of scary to imagine with all the spy shite and technology in 2024. Most of us probably encounter it more than we know.


nice shirt, baw
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
5290 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:40 pm to
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My question started with 14 year olds. Your question ends with 5 year olds.



1. The girl in question is 9
2. It doesn’t matter weather 9, 14, 34 or 84. Unless there was a sign on the door saying activities in the bathroom are being filmed, the defense that the victims “should have known” doesn’t hold water.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
13966 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:43 pm to
Male stewardesses always look and act feminine and probably have wear depends.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
6019 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:44 pm to
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quote:

Ngl kind of scary to imagine with all the spy shite and technology in 2024. Most of us probably encounter it more than we know.
nice shirt, baw
It is a nice shirt, but it doesn't fit well.

And when was the last someone cleaned his room?
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:47 pm to
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nice shirt, but it doesn't fit well.



I didn't want to hurt his feelings

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when was the last someone cleaned his room?


let me check the monitors in his mom's room, she hasn't stirred in a while
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57731 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:50 pm to
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chances are that he or she knows nothing about airline/security operations


Kind of an important detail if you’re going to represent an airline
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
13966 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:52 pm to
I remember hearing about this. Problem is if a dad caught this he would be in trouble for breaking the pervs arm.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
29895 posts
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:53 pm to
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The airline blamed “outside legal counsel retained with our insurance company” and said it would withdraw the legal filing.

This is believable to be honest. The cretin drones that the airlines and their insurance carriers hire are exactly the type of people who would make that argument.
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