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re: Just want to remind you that teachers are off of work

Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:09 pm to
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2 and half months
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there own profession
clearly, you aren't smart enough to be a teacher.
Posted by gar90
Member since Sep 2009
6478 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:13 pm to
I'm a teacher in Texas, but before that I had a white collar job. Yes as a teacher I get probably 5 times the days off, but the amount of energy I put into a typical work day is astronomically higher than my old job. Yes there is the planning, the actual teaching, and the administrative crap, but the energy it takes to deal with 150+ 14 year olds per day alone is enough to drive anyone crazy.

ETA: don't get me wrong, I love my job. I don't complain about the pay, but I'm in one of the highest paid areas for teachers (wayyy more than the ones who you hear striking). Just trying to give my 2 cents.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 8:15 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58830 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:15 pm to
Not only did I have work today, I brought a student home from summer school to find his father half dead so I got to spend the next four hours at the ER with my student.

If being a teacher is so easy and glamorous, change your diaper and go be a teacher.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36498 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:20 pm to
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They can retire at 50 or 55 and draw 80% or more of their salary for the rest of their lives--they also will get golden healthcare the rest of their lives AND they get DROP which is a BS giveaway that can easily be $150,000 AND their pensions in Louisiana are state income tax free.


This is what teachers don't understand. They can't see the trees through the forest. Their total compensation package is actually pretty damn good prepared to the average American. Let's say they retire at 55 making 50k and live to 78 (the average American's lifespan), they will collect 880k of La tax free earnings that they didn't have to contribute to. That's a pretty damn good deal.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23114 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:23 pm to
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They can retire at 50 or 55 and draw 80% or more of their salary for the rest of their lives--they also will get golden healthcare the rest of their lives AND they get DROP which is a BS giveaway that can easily be $150,000 AND their pensions in Louisiana are state income tax free.




Same thing here. They can walk out the door before age 52 with most of their salary, and nearly free health insurance for life. Couple that with only 38 weeks of work per year during their careers, and it's not exactly a demanding job compared to an average worker, who puts in 50 hours per week, 47-48 weeks per year, for 45 years. Or a blue collar worker who might put in 50 weeks per year.


Hell, I've already had one teacher friend complain to me that after two weeks, she's run out of things to watch on Netflix, and she's still got 10 more weeks of summer to go. Life is so hard for those guys.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 8:26 pm
Posted by gar90
Member since Sep 2009
6478 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:26 pm to
Not sure about Louisiana, but in Texas our retirement age is 62. The retirement amount is 2.3 multiplied by the number of years teaching gives you the percentage of the salary you get.

Yes, that is a FANTASTIC deal which is one of the reasons I became a teacher. The trade off is that we don't get a dime in social security.

Posted by browl
North of BR
Member since Nov 2017
1571 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:28 pm to
The average American worker puts in 50 hours/week. Riiiiight.


How many hours/week do you think a good teacher works?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36498 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:29 pm to
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The trade off is that we don't get a dime in social security.


Because you don't pay into it. I put 7.5% of every check I get into Social Security. If it's even still around when I retire I will have paid in way more than I'm eligible to collect. I'd take that deal any day.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58830 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:31 pm to
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How many hours/week do you think a good teacher works?



And teachers don't get paid to play on the Internet at work like many posters here.
Posted by gar90
Member since Sep 2009
6478 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:34 pm to
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Because you don't pay into it.


True. About 10% of my salary automatically comes out for the pension. Again, I'll gladly take the trade off. Just trying to give some info.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
38141 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:34 pm to
I just accepted my first teaching job a couple weeks ago.

I’m enjoying this thread.
Posted by White Bear
AT WORK
Member since Jul 2014
17201 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:35 pm to
And many are supposedly supportive of a strike to demand additional salary.

Bossier parish has strung out the school year with bullshite holidays and breaks my kids got out last thrusday and will return first wk of august. Crock of shite.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:46 pm to
Retirement age in Texas with TRS isn't 62. Meeting the service year multiplier defines date of eligible 100% retirement. Also, you mention not paying into Social Security. While true, for anyone leaving the profession, those quarters don't factor in the 40 quarter requirement with Medicare. If you leave teaching, you start at 0.

Not to mention TRS healthcare today is some of the most bottom-tier coverage around. ERS in comparison is about 60-70% less. Louisiana state teachers insurance, believe it or not, is miles better both in premium and coverage.

This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
23461 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:07 pm to
Ya'll can laugh all you want. I'll be at the Cadillac Cafe' tomorrow night trawlin'.
Posted by Lynyrd
Under the Tilt-a-Whirl
Member since Jun 2010
13284 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:14 pm to
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How many hours/week do you think a good teacher works?

A shite load more than 40 with grading, planning, shopping for classroom supplies because the school can't provide. Teachers spend a lot of personal money to benefit the kids and spend copious amounts of time trying to help.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10083 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:54 pm to
They need a break from raising your worthless kids that you aren’t fit to raise
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4473 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:36 pm to
2 and a half months? Please. I have four weeks of training over summer and then three weeks of prepping for next year.
Posted by FlagLake
"Da Ship"
Member since Feb 2006
2468 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 10:58 pm to
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Let's say they retire at 55 making 50k and live to 78 (the average American's lifespan), they will collect 880k of La tax free earnings that they didn't have to contribute to. That's a pretty damn good deal.


What the hell is all the money coming out of my check each month if according to you I am not having to contribute anything to my retirement?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85616 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 11:13 pm to
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Yeah most that I know don't even do anything productive or constructive that whole time either and some are even braggadocious about all their free time too. Until it's time to bitch about getting paid more.


Hmm most that I know, including my mother, did extra work in the summer. My neighbor works for a catering company year round and teaches.

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