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re: Just in case you doubt the pharmaceutical industry is behind the war on drugs

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Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:50 am to
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Trump is the real man of the people. Surely he will declassify cannibis.


HAHA. That's why Sessions is telling everyone he's cracking down on weed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:51 am to
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Ten more years and the boomers will begin croaking then we can enact sensible policy


Majority of Americans favor legalization now.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:51 am to
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I blame the police lobby more than anyone.



Prison lobby.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:52 am to
Not sure if I believe that but good to know if true

I do think many older guys have came around

Sessions is an unfortunate nomination
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:54 am to
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This is the federeal government saying there is legitimate medical use and


Hopefully a legal challenge to its schedule classification. I mean thats a big conflict right?
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 11:57 am to
I was thinking Trump needed to replace Sessions. Guess he needs to fire whoever is running the DEA as well.

This decision makes no sense.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:29 pm to
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fricking Obama should have taken if off schedule on his way out the door.



if he had, it would have been the one and only thing he did while in office that didnt hurt the country and it would have been remembered as a popular accomplishment, something he doesnt now have
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60201 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:32 pm to
I trust a safe effective drug made by doctors a lot more than a drug created in a field by Mexicans and cut with God knows what
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
48750 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:37 pm to
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Hmmmm, I wonder now how this will effect HR policies on drug testing.



It won't affect it at all. They test for opiods now as well as other drugs which be be legally available. If you test positive, provide your prescription, no harm, no foul. If you are not allowed to work while taking said medication (like an opiod) you are typically sent home without pay and allowed to return in 24-72 hours depending on how long the drug stays in your system.

The DOT panel tests for alcohol, which is a legal recreational substance. And the driver behind the start DOT required drug testing was a serious train accident in which the engineer who missed several signals was literally smoking at the controls of the train.

Wikipedia citation about 1987 train crash.
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
4280 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:40 pm to
This has to be a troll post.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
21245 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:45 pm to
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Ten more years and the boomers will begin croaking then we can enact sensible policy


There may be some truth to your statement, but when it comes to weed smokers, the boomers are more than well represented.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:48 pm to
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The DOT panel tests for alcohol, which is a legal recreational substance.

That's part of the problem with weed legalization. There's no legal limit, just a positive or negative. Surely we can come up with that, though.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49211 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:53 pm to
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This decision makes no sense
It doesn't make any sense, but it makes a ton of cents.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Not sure if I believe that but good to know if true

I do think many older guys have came around


Weed was a part of life in the 70s. Older people are increasing weed use at a higher rate than many others

64% favor weed legalization

Overall this would be considered a landslide
Posted by Speedy G
Member since Aug 2013
3984 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Which makes this article even more absurd.

The government is basically saying that THC has no medicinal value when found in marijuana. But, when the same active ingredient is made in a lab, it's an effective medical tool. That's the most counter intuitive thing I've ever heard.


Moreover, 29 states and DC permit medical cannibis and federal law prohibits the DOJ from interfering. Seems to undermine the FDA/DEA's 'no medical use' claim just a bit.
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1602 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:01 pm to
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I trust a safe effective drug made by doctors a lot more than a drug created in a field by Mexicans and cut with God knows what


A. You don't 'cut' weed. Not even sure if you're serious...

B. Most weed in illegal states is shipped by mail from legal states. Who smokes Mexican schwag?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79881 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:01 pm to
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It won't affect it at all. They test for opiods now as well as other drugs which be be legally available. If you test positive, provide your prescription, no harm, no foul. If you are not allowed to work while taking said medication (like an opiod) you are typically sent home without pay and allowed to return in 24-72 hours depending on how long the drug stays in your system.



Yeah. When I inquired about our Colorado location, and drug testing, HR just kind of laughed. They said it wasn't on them to improve the test.

I was just wondering if one could argue the loss of THC effectiveness based on prescription schedule of this new product.

Opioids will still show up in your system long after their effects have worn off. For instance 12 hours is the usual recommendation for taking opiods before coming in to work.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85576 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:04 pm to
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Overall this would be considered a landslide

If put to a popular vote, it’d probably be legalized on the state and federal level. Of course the lobbyists will never stop campaigning against it through scare tactics and misinformation.

But don’t worry, our fearless leaders will never dare allow the people to vote directly on the issue. Someone tried a couple years ago to get it on the Louisiana ballot and that was quickly snuffed out by the small government conservatives.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85576 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:05 pm to
He’s a troll
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85576 posts
Posted on 11/30/17 at 1:09 pm to
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Moreover, 29 states and DC permit medical cannibis and federal law prohibits the DOJ from interfering. Seems to undermine the FDA/DEA's 'no medical use' claim just a bit.

Louisiana has long recognized the medicinal value of weed. And still refuses to take it off Sched I.
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