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re: Jr. High student in Mandeville arrested after making 'hit list' of bullies

Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:23 pm to
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Well I have to imagine that she intentionally wrote it down, right? Like she didn't hold a pencil and gesticulate wildly until a set of certain names appeared on a piece of paper.


How do you know she didn't write it in a journal and another student saw it? Just because she intentionally put pencil/pen to paper doesn't mean she meant to communicate it to the others.
Posted by mikie421
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:24 pm to
Montleone Jr. High.

I’m sure my kids will fill me in when they get home.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2555 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:25 pm to
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How do you know they did nothing illegal? See my previous post, are you stating because they were not charged that means you know for sure they did nothing illegal?

No, I'm saying you have zero clue if the bullies were just mean to her or what they actually did to the person that was arrested. Do you disagree with that?

I'm saying one side of this issue is littered with criminal evidence and the other side is not.

And even if they did smack this kid around a little or threw their lunch in the trash, you'd have to agree that making written threats against their lives isn't a valid or reasonable response, right?
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:27 pm to
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Abraham H Parnassis


You spelled Parnassus wrong.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:28 pm to
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And even if they did smack this kid around a little
Good lord. Tell us about your homelife without telling us.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 4:29 pm
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:28 pm to
I understand the statute, I guess, but I would think that there needs to be some reason to think that the intent was serious and that there was a reasonable belief that she could follow up on her list. Maybe we have not heard all the details, but just making a list of people she hates should not be a felony.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:29 pm to
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I'm saying one side of this issue is littered with criminal evidence and the other side is not.

That's a far cry from every post you made for 3 pages being 100% certain all the bullies did was be "mean."


Glad to see you concede you were incorrect with the previous assertions that you were 100% certain they ere only mean and definitely not anything else.

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And even if they did smack this kid around a little or threw their lunch in the trash, you'd have to agree that making written threats against their lives isn't a valid or reasonable response, right?

I certainly agree with that, but again, you argued for 3 pages that they did not smack her around, and I'm telling you for a fact that you do not know if they did or did not do that.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:29 pm to
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You spelled Parnassus wrong.

Yeah, the Gmail was taken so I had to adjust.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16511 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:29 pm to
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'm saying one side of this issue is littered with criminal evidence and the other side is not.


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littered with criminal evidence


Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12460 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:30 pm to
How about the school handle the list of bullies instead.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:30 pm to
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Maybe we have not heard all the details, but just making a list of people she hates should not be a felony.

I mean, if she literally just made a list of people she hates, i agree.

But we don't know what was written down, even if it were meant to be private, if she made this list and also on the paper is something that makes it very clear that this is a list of people she wants to kill, that's a problem if someone finds it. Especially for a 13 year old and schoolmates being on the list.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2555 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:32 pm to
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That's a far cry from every post you made for 3 pages being 100% certain all the bullies did was be "mean."

If evidence existed that these other kids committed a crime, I'd have to imagine they'd have been arrested.
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Glad to see you concede you were incorrect with the previous assertions that you were 100% certain they ere only mean and definitely not anything else.

No, I'm still 100% on the side of justice where we don't punish those who commit no crimes.
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I certainly agree with that, but again, you argued for 3 pages that they did not smack her around, and I'm telling you for a fact that you do not know if they did or did not do that.

I get it. You want kids to be punished for being bullies - even if no such law exists. You seem to be okay with violent, felonious retaliation absent any evidence of wrongdoing from the victims of the kill list.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2555 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:33 pm to
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littered with criminal evidence
Yeah. You know, the hit list she made of the children she wanted to see dead.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:34 pm to
Just get LSUFAN444 to take her to Disney World 5 times a year.

Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1091 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:36 pm to
The statute requires "communication of information that the commission of a crime of violence is imminent or in progress or that a circumstance dangerous to human life exists or is about to exist, with the intent of causing members of the general public to be in sustained fear for their safety . ."

I would think that the communication is the key action, not making the list. So unless she sent the list out and people believed that a crime was imminent, it seems like she was over charged. To me, that sounds more likely with the state of public schools today.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16511 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:36 pm to
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I get it. You want kids to be punished for being bullies - even if no such law exists.


People wanted the school to punish the kids for bullying. What if I told you that kids get punished in school every day for things that aren't against the law?
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
2486 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:36 pm to
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If evidence existed that these other kids committed a crime, I'd have to imagine they'd have been arrested.


You’ve never heard the term “ongoing investigation?”

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I'd have to imagine


That’s your problem
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:40 pm to
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If evidence existed that these other kids committed a crime, I'd have to imagine they'd have been arrested.

Does that mean they did not commit a crime or just that they may get away with a crime?
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No, I'm still 100% on the side of justice where we don't punish those who commit no crimes.

For the 4th time, you have zero clue if they committed a crime. Back to my point about you trusting the justice system to catch every single crime that has ever been committed, which is awfully naive on your part.
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I get it. You want kids to be punished for being bullies - even if no such law exists
What? Now you're not making any sense, try again.
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You seem to be okay with violent, felonious retaliation
You literally asked me if this was ok and I literally told you I was not, WTF are you talking about? You're down bad right now, you have no clue what you're trying to say.

Try to regroup, take a break from this thread, then maybe come back and try to discuss this when you can put some coherent thoughts together because right now, you are not at all doing that.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2555 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:43 pm to
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Good lord. Tell us about your homelife without telling us.

I was raised to deal with my problems directly, to include teasing, picking, etc.

But I was raised by my father. A man.

It sounds like you and a lot of the other triggered posters ITT were raised by your mothers. That's regrettable. I'm sorry your fathers were not present.

My condolences.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110888 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:43 pm to
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I would think that the communication is the key action, not making the list. So unless she sent the list out and people believed that a crime was imminent, it seems like she was over charged. To me, that sounds more likely with the state of public schools today.

The fact that someone else ratted her out tells us that she wasn't the only one to see the list.

So it's plausible that she showed the list to someone else, and that would fulfill the communicating part.
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