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re: Jr. High student in Mandeville arrested after making 'hit list' of bullies
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:23 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:23 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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Well I have to imagine that she intentionally wrote it down, right? Like she didn't hold a pencil and gesticulate wildly until a set of certain names appeared on a piece of paper.
How do you know she didn't write it in a journal and another student saw it? Just because she intentionally put pencil/pen to paper doesn't mean she meant to communicate it to the others.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:24 pm to Jake88
Montleone Jr. High.
I’m sure my kids will fill me in when they get home.
I’m sure my kids will fill me in when they get home.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:25 pm to shel311
quote:I'm saying one side of this issue is littered with criminal evidence and the other side is not.
How do you know they did nothing illegal? See my previous post, are you stating because they were not charged that means you know for sure they did nothing illegal?
No, I'm saying you have zero clue if the bullies were just mean to her or what they actually did to the person that was arrested. Do you disagree with that?
And even if they did smack this kid around a little or threw their lunch in the trash, you'd have to agree that making written threats against their lives isn't a valid or reasonable response, right?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:27 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
Abraham H Parnassis
You spelled Parnassus wrong.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:28 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:Good lord. Tell us about your homelife without telling us.
And even if they did smack this kid around a little
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:28 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
I understand the statute, I guess, but I would think that there needs to be some reason to think that the intent was serious and that there was a reasonable belief that she could follow up on her list. Maybe we have not heard all the details, but just making a list of people she hates should not be a felony.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:29 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:That's a far cry from every post you made for 3 pages being 100% certain all the bullies did was be "mean."
I'm saying one side of this issue is littered with criminal evidence and the other side is not.
Glad to see you concede you were incorrect with the previous assertions that you were 100% certain they ere only mean and definitely not anything else.

quote:I certainly agree with that, but again, you argued for 3 pages that they did not smack her around, and I'm telling you for a fact that you do not know if they did or did not do that.
And even if they did smack this kid around a little or threw their lunch in the trash, you'd have to agree that making written threats against their lives isn't a valid or reasonable response, right?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:29 pm to csorre1
quote:Yeah, the Gmail was taken so I had to adjust.
You spelled Parnassus wrong.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:29 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
'm saying one side of this issue is littered with criminal evidence and the other side is not.
quote:
littered with criminal evidence

Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:30 pm to John88
How about the school handle the list of bullies instead.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:30 pm to dinosaur
quote:I mean, if she literally just made a list of people she hates, i agree.
Maybe we have not heard all the details, but just making a list of people she hates should not be a felony.
But we don't know what was written down, even if it were meant to be private, if she made this list and also on the paper is something that makes it very clear that this is a list of people she wants to kill, that's a problem if someone finds it. Especially for a 13 year old and schoolmates being on the list.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:32 pm to shel311
quote:If evidence existed that these other kids committed a crime, I'd have to imagine they'd have been arrested.
That's a far cry from every post you made for 3 pages being 100% certain all the bullies did was be "mean."
quote:No, I'm still 100% on the side of justice where we don't punish those who commit no crimes.
Glad to see you concede you were incorrect with the previous assertions that you were 100% certain they ere only mean and definitely not anything else.
quote:I get it. You want kids to be punished for being bullies - even if no such law exists. You seem to be okay with violent, felonious retaliation absent any evidence of wrongdoing from the victims of the kill list.
I certainly agree with that, but again, you argued for 3 pages that they did not smack her around, and I'm telling you for a fact that you do not know if they did or did not do that.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:33 pm to jchamil
quote:Yeah. You know, the hit list she made of the children she wanted to see dead.
littered with criminal evidence
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:34 pm to John88
Just get LSUFAN444 to take her to Disney World 5 times a year.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:36 pm to shel311
The statute requires "communication of information that the commission of a crime of violence is imminent or in progress or that a circumstance dangerous to human life exists or is about to exist, with the intent of causing members of the general public to be in sustained fear for their safety . ."
I would think that the communication is the key action, not making the list. So unless she sent the list out and people believed that a crime was imminent, it seems like she was over charged. To me, that sounds more likely with the state of public schools today.
I would think that the communication is the key action, not making the list. So unless she sent the list out and people believed that a crime was imminent, it seems like she was over charged. To me, that sounds more likely with the state of public schools today.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:36 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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I get it. You want kids to be punished for being bullies - even if no such law exists.
People wanted the school to punish the kids for bullying. What if I told you that kids get punished in school every day for things that aren't against the law?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:36 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
If evidence existed that these other kids committed a crime, I'd have to imagine they'd have been arrested.
You’ve never heard the term “ongoing investigation?”
quote:
I'd have to imagine
That’s your problem
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:40 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:Does that mean they did not commit a crime or just that they may get away with a crime?
If evidence existed that these other kids committed a crime, I'd have to imagine they'd have been arrested.
quote:For the 4th time, you have zero clue if they committed a crime. Back to my point about you trusting the justice system to catch every single crime that has ever been committed, which is awfully naive on your part.
No, I'm still 100% on the side of justice where we don't punish those who commit no crimes.
quote:What? Now you're not making any sense, try again.
I get it. You want kids to be punished for being bullies - even if no such law exists
quote:You literally asked me if this was ok and I literally told you I was not, WTF are you talking about? You're down bad right now, you have no clue what you're trying to say.
You seem to be okay with violent, felonious retaliation
Try to regroup, take a break from this thread, then maybe come back and try to discuss this when you can put some coherent thoughts together because right now, you are not at all doing that.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:43 pm to Jake88
quote:I was raised to deal with my problems directly, to include teasing, picking, etc.
Good lord. Tell us about your homelife without telling us.
But I was raised by my father. A man.
It sounds like you and a lot of the other triggered posters ITT were raised by your mothers. That's regrettable. I'm sorry your fathers were not present.
My condolences.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:43 pm to dinosaur
quote:The fact that someone else ratted her out tells us that she wasn't the only one to see the list.
I would think that the communication is the key action, not making the list. So unless she sent the list out and people believed that a crime was imminent, it seems like she was over charged. To me, that sounds more likely with the state of public schools today.
So it's plausible that she showed the list to someone else, and that would fulfill the communicating part.
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