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re: Jr. High student in Mandeville arrested after making 'hit list' of bullies
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:03 pm to Jake88
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:03 pm to Jake88
quote:Read the statute for menacing. And what does it matter who made it known? That doesn't have any impact on the legality of the action. You can't cook meth in your house legally, but when someone rats on you it magically becomes illegal. That's not at all how law works.
It doesn't say she was menacing anyone. Another student made it known she had a list.
quote:I'm for punishing those who broke the law. Being a mean kid isn't illegal.
And, the guy you're arguing with is suggesting both parties, the girl and her bullies, should face repercussions.
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Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:05 pm to L1C4
quote:Sorry you got bullied as a kid, and I get you want to rail against mean kids, but you can't commit a crime to drive that point. It doesn't work like that.
Dude, just give it up.
You're in over your head.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:07 pm to TCO
quote:Please point me to the statute that criminalizes being mean.
You don’t know that’s all that happened. Just STFU.
You can try looking in LRS 14, but I think you'll come up empty.
Let me know, though.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:07 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:I did and obviously comprehend it better than you. The key element is "the intentional communication..." Nowhere in the story does it say she intentionally communicated anything.
Read the statute for menacing. And what does it matter who made it known?
quote:
Menacing is the intentional communication of information that the commission of a crime of violence, as defined in R.S. 14:2(B), is imminent or in progress or that a circumstance dangerous to human life exists or is about to exist, when committed under any of the following circumstances:
quote:Nobody said the bullies should get arrested. The school though should mete out discipline.
I'm for punishing those who broke the law. Being a mean kid isn't illegal.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:08 pm to Jake88
quote:You're right. She probably accidentally wrote the murder list. Drafting a hit list is in no way "intentional communication".
The story doesn't say she intentionally communicated anything. Menacing doesn't fit.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:11 pm to Jake88
quote:So she "accidentally" wrote out a hit list...gotcha.
I did and obviously comprehend it better than you. The key element is "the intentional communication..." Nowhere in the story does it say she intentionally communicated anything.
quote:Look no further than the third post in this thread. Someone is clearly butthurt that the SO won't go after the "bullies."
Nobody said the bullies should get arrested. The school though should mete out discipline.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:13 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:You must really really trust your justice system to catch every single thing and never miss to be this sure about something.
Please point me to the statute that criminalizes being mean.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:13 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
Someone is clearly butthurt that the SO won't go after the "bullies."
It's a good thing the bullies have you here as their advocate. Not sure what they would do without you.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:13 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:You're reading into the story. Good chance another kid saw it and told on her.
You're right. She probably accidentally wrote the murder list. Drafting a hit list is in no way "intentional communication".
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:13 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:
Please point me to the statute that criminalizes being mean
How TF do you know they were just “being mean?” Kids are physically bullied all the time.
You may be the dumbest frick in the history of frickdom
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:14 pm to Furlong the Red
quote:It's wild how absolutely certain he is about what the bullies did or did not do.
It's a good thing the bullies have you here as their advocate. Not sure what they would do without you.
Maybe he's a parent of one of the bullies.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:14 pm to TCO
quote:Right, which is why I mentioned how much he must trust the system and they must never ever miss and they know about every single crime ever committed.
How TF do you know they were just “being mean?” Kids are physically bullied all the time.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:16 pm to Fat and Happy
quote:
What if, something was actually addressed to the students on the list?
this...
how much of an eye opening experience would it be for a 13 year old girl/boy to realize they might have been a day away from being gunnned down
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:17 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:Where did I say anything anything about "accidentally" writing anything? Writing a hit list does not qualify as Menacing. Why are you toiling away at a strawman? Again, nothing says she intentionally communicated anything. But keep creating "facts" so you can win your dim argument.
So she "accidentally" wrote out a hit list...gotcha.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:17 pm to shel311
quote:I'm not in favor of people being punished by the state for things that are not illegal.
You must really really trust your justice system to catch every single thing and never miss to be this sure about something.
Do you disagree with that? Should police be able to arrest people for noncriminal actions?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:19 pm to Jake88
That poster you're replying to is making really bad arguments, but...
quote:Correct, but someone seems to think she didn't just write it down, and that she did intentionally communicate it.
Writing a hit list does not qualify as Menacing
quote:The charge of menacing that states it must be intentionally communicated says that she did this, no?
Again, nothing says she intentionally communicated anything
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:19 pm to Jake88
quote:Well I have to imagine that she intentionally wrote it down, right? Like she didn't hold a pencil and gesticulate wildly until a set of certain names appeared on a piece of paper.
Where did I say anything anything about "accidentally" writing anything? Writing a hit list does not qualify as Menacing. Why are you toiling away at a strawman? Again, nothing says she intentionally communicated anything. But keep creating "facts" so you can win your dim argument.
Even you can understand that, right?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:20 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:How do you know they did nothing illegal? See my previous post, are you stating because they were not charged that means you know for sure they did nothing illegal?
I'm not in favor of people being punished by the state for things that are not illegal.
quote:No, I'm saying you have zero clue if the bullies were just mean to her or what they actually did to the person that was arrested. Do you disagree with that?
Do you disagree with that? Should police be able to arrest people for noncriminal actions?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:21 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:Man, you're terrible at arguing a point.
Well I have to imagine that she intentionally wrote it down, right? Like she didn't hold a pencil and gesticulate wildly until a set of certain names appeared on a piece of paper.
Even you can understand that, right?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:21 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:I never said it was accidental. That's what that post was about.
Well I have to imagine that she intentionally wrote it down, right? Like she didn't hold a pencil and gesticulate wildly until a set of certain names appeared on a piece of paper
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