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re: JP Sheriff Newell Normand's tirade over potentially legalizing marijuana.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:04 pm to MightyYat
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:04 pm to MightyYat
What people miss in this whole discussion is how heavily cops use weed as an excuse for other convictions.
A cop saying "I smelled Marijuana" is a HUGE red flag that they had no real reason to search, and came up with a reason when their supervisor showed up and started yelling at them.
Without that crutch, cops would hardly ever be able to justify searches. (hyperbole, but whatever).
A cop saying "I smelled Marijuana" is a HUGE red flag that they had no real reason to search, and came up with a reason when their supervisor showed up and started yelling at them.
Without that crutch, cops would hardly ever be able to justify searches. (hyperbole, but whatever).
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Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:10 pm to biglego
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gaucho trolling you
This is an issue I can easily be trolled over. Especially in regards to Louisiana, probably the only southern state is be willing to move back to.
Here's a story from Mardi Gras. I was at Muses, on the neutral ground uptown. Me and a buday were smoking a joint I had. We're almost done, when I see a cop walking towards us. Butshejust walked on by, so I figured she didn't notice.
Behind her, was a domino's guy selling pizzas. Having the munchies, I decided to chase him down, asks him if he wants to trade a Colorado joint for a pizza.
He said "I'm only doing this because I smelled it."
So there no doubt the cop smelled it, and didn't even bother to acknowledge it.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:11 pm to MightyYat
Fck him for his stance in this issue
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:18 pm to CCTider
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So there no doubt the cop smelled it, and didn't even bother to acknowledge it.
That should be your come to Jesus realization that you need to stop using drugs, especially in public areas where children are present. Is your addiction so bad that you can't wait to use in the privacy of your own home?
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:21 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Lol no. full on legalization with low taxes would make it infinitely harder for kids to buy weed.
And it will probably spike use, particularly among youngsters during the first few years of legalization before it stabilizes. That's just a fact of legalization
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:23 pm to CCTider
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Besides cops that risk losing a source of funding, and drug dealers that would have to get a real job, Louisiana'a biggest opponent to legalization is the alcohol industry.
All of this is true - MJ legislation was, at least in part, payback to the reborn alcohol industry after prohibition. To use a crude example, A-B doesn't really compete with Coors, although they appear to. They're actually competing against other intoxicants, most of which are illegal.
Because, typically drinkers smoke cigarettes and might use other stimulants at the same time. Smokers may combine hallucinogens and mild stimulants and may drink as well, but you're correct, their alcohol consumption tends to drop with increased cannabis use.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:24 pm to MightyYat
He's a nut.
And, what Stout said...
And, what Stout said...
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:26 pm to Ace Midnight
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their alcohol consumption tends to drop with increased cannabis use.
Well obviously, you have to have a job to afford beer
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:27 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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full on legalization with low taxes would make it infinitely harder for kids to buy weed.
I should have been more clear - "youngsters" - I don't necessarily mean underage. Obviously alcohol is legal, MJ is illegal and kids still get ahold of both.
What I meant by my "youngsters" remark - you have a number of kids who may have avoided MJ because it was illegal - once it is full on legal - 18 to 21 year olds almost certainly will experiment in large numbers. I don't think that's a crazy assertion. And those "kids" (adults, but still very young) might develop a taste for it that the illegality of it reduced or removed.
I don't think that legalization has a positive or negative effect on underaged kids getting it - now, with it legal, there may be far more folks growing at home and more "legally" purchased available for kids to sneak. But, the consequences of legal outlets selling to kids will likely discourage them from doing so, as it does for alcohol now.
That's all I meant.
This post was edited on 2/23/16 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:34 pm to el Gaucho
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That should be your come to Jesus realization that you need to stop using drugs, especially in public areas where children are present. Is your addiction so bad that you can't wait to use in the privacy of your own home?
It was definitely an eye opening experience. It didn't realize that joints could be used as currency.
And I got my first Muses shoe. It was a great night.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:41 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Lol no. full on legalization with low taxes would make it infinitely harder for kids to buy weed.
Eliminating the black market makes it harder for children to buy weed. My first and second dealers were both cashiers at Taco Bell. By the time I got to high school, buying any illegal drug was much easier than buying alcohol.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:43 pm to el Gaucho
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That should be your come to Jesus realization that you need to stop using drugs, especially in public areas where children are present.
I'd rather everyone at parades be high than drunk. Drunk people are starting fight over pointless territorial bullshite. High people are just happy the floats keep rolling by all bright and colorful.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:46 pm to sealawyer
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I'd rather everyone at parades be high than drunk. Drunk people are starting fight over pointless territorial bullshite. High people are just happy the floats keep rolling by all bright and colorful.
I would like to see some research comparing likes and likes - anecdotally, I think some folks do some heinous shite while high, and others tend to get mellow, happy or friendly while drunk. But, overall, the general experience of most folks is what you describe - far less violence associated with marijuana use versus alcohol abuse - and this is amplified with chronic and heavy use of both.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:50 pm to Ace Midnight
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I don't think that legalization has a positive or negative effect on underaged kids getting it - now, with it legal, there may be far more folks growing at home and more "legally" purchased available for kids to sneak. But, the consequences of legal outlets selling to kids will likely discourage them from doing so, as it does for alcohol now.
That's all I meant.
The usage percentage hasn't changed in several years in Colorado. Kids are probably getting it in a different way than before. Probably from an older sibling.
They definitely aren't buying it from a dispensary. They've tried hundreds of sting operations, to see if a dispensary would sell to someone under 21. And every time from every store, they were refused. I think the self policing within the industry has been to be a shining example to the rest of the country, on a highly controversial industry. I don't expect that to hold up in every state, especially one with a party and corrupt culture like Louisiana. But I know I don't want my son to buy weed at 15 from a fast food cashier, so its a huge step in the right direction.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:52 pm to CCTider
never going to happen. time to move on.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:56 pm to sealawyer
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I'd rather everyone at parades be high than drunk. Drunk people are starting fight over pointless territorial bullshite. High people are just happy the floats keep rolling by all bright and colorful
Not me. I'm the dude in the front row screaming "emblem beads" and giving 90% of my catches to kids nearby. My record at Zulu is 8 coconuts.
But I don't fight over beads or real estate.
And if anything, us reefer heads are too busy dancing to the bands to realize a float went by.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 1:58 pm to MightyYat
if they legalize weed how else will they be able to confiscate your stuff?
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:02 pm to Jimmy2shoes
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never going to happen.
Though not now. It'll take another decade in the south. But Louisiana drastically reduced penalties several months ago to surprisingly lax amounts (up to 2.5 pounds is still considered a misdemeanor. Which by kind bud standards, would be 7-8k worth on the wholesale market, 16k for retail.)
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:02 pm to danilo
A lot of officers don't really care if MJ is legalized or not. It is bad for you but so are cigarettes and alcohol. The taxes gained would be a great benefit.
If people are going to kill themselves they are going to do it. At with legalization the government gets some tax benefits from MJ use just like alcohol.
If people are going to kill themselves they are going to do it. At with legalization the government gets some tax benefits from MJ use just like alcohol.
Posted on 2/23/16 at 2:03 pm to danilo
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if they legalize weed how else will they be able to confiscate your stuff?
JP shook me and friend down when I was in college. Stole a handgun from me. Those suckers of cock can all die in a fire as far as I'm concerned.
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