re: Joe Rogan interviews the pilot in the Nimitz/Tic Tac incident (pg 8: US Army weighs in)

He didn't just now go public. It was never classified by the Navy. He was the CO. The highest position of a squadron. If he wanted to go on to be CO of the airwing and continue to be promoted he couldn't sound like a crazy a-hole.

Look how we treat people who come out and said they have seen shite.

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The Bible says a lot of things but let's leave that for another thread

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It doesn't say anything about Aliens or UFO's. Likely demons rather than Aliens.

I think all of this stuff is just interesting as hell. I have always thought that surely there's life elsewhere in the cosmos, but was pretty doubtful that intelligent life were visiting our planet in the case of UFO sightings.

The navy videos plus the interview with Fravor are very fascinating to say the least. I really hope that physics and science still have some awesome phenomena up their sleeve that we could exploit to solve our energy and long distance space travel woes. Now, obviously there is still much to be discovered in science, but seems like the general consensus is that we have nailed down most physical phenomena through general relativity, with quantum mechanics still in its infancy in terms of real world effects we can manipulate.

Having said that, the craft in the Navy videos would tell us that there are still major areas to research and advance and ideas that we haven't yet considered. The Navy patent by Pais for the inertial mass reducing propulsion would, in theory, perform and look very similar to what the pilots are witnessing from these craft. The recent advancements in metamaterials alone seem very promising from an engineering standpoint. It would also seem that metamaterials would play a crucial part in the Navy patent, as the basis for the outer wall/hull that would exhibit certain properties when exposed to specific EM frequencies

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My thing is, if Aliens existed and were a real threat, don't you think the Bible would make some mention of them? Might be a good thing to put in there, "oh yeah watch out for the Aliens invading Earth". But nope, nothing.

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A discussion for elsewhere, but:



The first book they put out makes a claim that most religions are cargo cults

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4I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north—an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was human, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and the wings of one touched the wings of another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.” – Ezekiel 1


“15 As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces. 16 This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like topaz, and all four looked alike. Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. 17 As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced; the wheels did not change direction as the creatures went. 18 Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around… 22 Spread out above the heads of the living creatures was what looked something like a vault, sparkling like crystal, and awesome.” – Ezekiel 1

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"I'd say pretty fast, that's an estimate"

-Commander David Fravor

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So you believe in little green men visiting us from planets that are lightyears away but reject God, makes sense.

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Pump the brakes...

It is possible to believe in God while entertaining the idea that something may have passed itself off as “gods” to early man. Both story arcs can/may co-exist.

They scratch the surface of this in the podcast in the OP (Youtube version shows the art better)

Many ancient cultures describe civilizing men coming from the sea to teach them agriculture, metallurgy, etc. Will post more info on USOs/underwater phenomena over the next few days

We have also discussed Gnosticism in other threads (further complicating things)

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59a6e109e4b05fa16286bec6

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The Case for Gnosticism, Part 6: A Gnostic Viewpoint on “Alien Abductions”
Scott S. Smith , Contributor Freelance Journalist

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I can entertain these ideas without embracing them completely

I’ve seen the Lazar doc and podcast and watched every minute of the Tic Tac podcast.

I’ve always been in the camp that the probability of life considering the number of planetary systems almost guarantees it.

But I’ve almost always dismissed UFO sightings and reports. These two releases have 100% piqued my interest and I think the trend of credible sources coming out is extremely interesting, and encouraging as we move forward.

I wouldn’t be shocked to see much more confirmation of the possibility that we have, in our possession, technology which is beyond out understanding over the next decade or so. The only thing that will hold up this confirmation up is the speed at which we may be able to understand the tech.

The most rational thought (from the podcast) regarding “who is it” is when the pilot notions that the technology would have crept into propulsion systems by now, whether US or foreign. This is all just extremely interesting.

I speculate that these UFOs are automated machines that are sent out to explore the galaxy. I'm not sure what to make of actual aliens being recovered from crash sites. You'd think they would be safer if they had that sort of tech, but who knows. There could be machines from multiple different civilizations as well, which would explain some of the inconsistencies.

It's getting more and more likely that my kids will live in a world where it's a known fact that Aliens are among us. If any are waiting to make contact, they'll probably do so right before or right when we start really being able to get equipment to other solar systems. If this is so, I take solace in the fact that they're restrained.

That is not referring to Aliens